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@ladydeburg wrote:

Where's MM when he's needed to put up the graphs of debt and themassive $1 billion a month we have to pay to service the Labor debt? 

The debt that no one can deny, OH wait! you did   Oh that's right it's just a Murdoch conspiracy.

 

The mind boggles, but expected from the secular clericy.

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Oops, there's that misspelled word again.

why should taxpayers pay for people to have children then pay for them to be cared for

In your world, women should stay home and do paid work outside the home, after  they have children then?

Obviously, women aren't going to go to work to earn, for example, $450 a week and it will cost them $400 in childcare costs.

cler icy?

Word of the week.

Spelling bully? spell that

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@ladydeburg wrote:

 

As for your "lying" comment. Labor actually legislated things into law (Climate commission and Gonski) so it could "never be changed"  how's that for democracy.

 

 

 

 

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Gonski was "legislated" into "law"? When?

And, actually, what does that even mean? How does "legislated into law" work?

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@ladydeburg wrote:

Spelling bully? spell that

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If it's going to be used as a label to affix to posters it would be more appropriate to get the spelling right.... probably the meaning too.

Confused.  What is a clericy?

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@j*oono wrote:

Confused.  What is a clericy?

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clerisy - learned people, as in a group.  

Oxford online - Learned or literary people regarded as a social group or class:

What does that make a secular clerisy, which is what the posters here have been called?

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@ladydeburg wrote:

on another note;  why should taxpayers pay for people to have children then pay for them to be cared for.

 

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When employers pay wages high enough to cover child care then there will be no need for taxpayers to subsidies.  And before you say that people should not have children if they cannot afford to support them; if people would not get various allowances to have children we end up with negative population growth just like Japan; they are now getting so desperate that they are looking at attracting migrants for the jobs that cannot be filled with local people. 

If government has to subsidies people's income, then the main beneficiaries are the companies who pay subsistence wages.