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05-01-2016 12:46 PM - edited 05-01-2016 12:48 PM
@djilukjilly wrote:Pretty shameful to equate it to terrorism when its not.
There is a certain motive behind this post but I cant be bothered going into it. It has already been exposed by most on here.
Armed men taking over federal building are noy terrorists?!!!!!!!!!!! According to FBI code:
Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code
18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines "international terrorism" and "domestic terrorism" for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled "Terrorism”:
"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
- Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
- Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
- Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
- Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
- Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
- Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:
- Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
- Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).
* FISA defines "international terrorism" in a nearly identical way, replacing "primarily" outside the U.S. with "totally" outside the U.S. 50 U.S.C. § 1801(c).
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 05-01-2016 12:54 PM
Some good point in this article:
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/10-questions-defending-oregon-militia-need-to-answer/
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 05-01-2016 01:48 PM
"There is nothing more; but I want nothing more." Christopher Hitchins
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on 05-01-2016 02:17 PM
It's no wonder some people
Have a warped perspective
If they prescribe to this kind
Of one sided propaganda Nova.
In the current state of world hostilities
a terrorists is generally known to the masses
as a member of a radicalized Islamic group,
Regardless of a dictionary definition.
Many of whom I might add are of white ethnicity.
As was similar to several years ago terrorists
Could be associated with the IRA
To know who would be a terrorist
Has to be proven, but to expect a terrorist to be
radicalized Islamic in the current state of world
Events is not only a natural thought process but a very valid one.
So if a thread bares the title
Another terrorist attack in USA,
It is only natural that anyone would
Immediately have fears of another attack from Islam.
Which unlike vigilante farmers in US has a very clear and present danger to all
Westerners who are known to be their enemy.
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on 05-01-2016 02:27 PM
That's only relevant if the reader is incapable of understanding the OP..........which, apparently, some on this board are.
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on 05-01-2016 02:33 PM
I certainly don't profess to understand the OP
or the motives that would drive this thread nor
Do I care to. The simple fact is you only have to
read the title to be alarmed and this is what most
People have an objection to if I understand their
posts correctly
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on 05-01-2016 02:41 PM
and any reasonable person would have
thought the OP was referring to a terrorist
attack in the current context.
a better title would be 'another act of
domestic terrorism in the US' - but we
all know, it would not have achieved
the desired effect.
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on 05-01-2016 02:44 PM
Perhaps this thread has enlightened a few more
People who now have a better understanding of
The OP
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05-01-2016 02:52 PM - edited 05-01-2016 02:54 PM
@opmania wrote:I certainly don't profess to understand the OP
or the motives that would drive this thread nor
Do I care to. The simple fact is you only have to
read the title to be alarmed and this is what most
People have an objection to if I understand their
posts correctly
That's right. Because there wasn't a terrorist attack. No one has been killed or shot, or for that matter...not even a stubbed toe.
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on 05-01-2016 03:05 PM
Maybe an old cow trod on a few toes let loose
In the paddock.
You never know the spiralling effects of terrorism
And the casualties that don't even warrant a mention