Re: Obama To The Rescue of Saudi Arabia

the_great_she_elephant · ‎25-09-2016

The article c&pd in your OP conveniently fails to mention Obama's reason for vetoing the claim: if it succeeded, it could open the floodgates to simiilar claims against the US.

"Obama administration officials have repeatedly argued that the bill would open up American government personnel and service members to lawsuits overseas."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/obama-veto-911-saudi-arabia/501491/

myoclon1cjerk · ‎25-09-2016

That's exactly the reason. If it wasn't vetoed, there'd probably be a couple of million lawsuits aimed at the U.S government by Iraqis,and justifiably so.

icyfroth · ‎26-09-2016

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
The article c&pd in your OP conveniently fails to mention Obama's reason for vetoing the claim: if it succeeded, it could open the floodgates to simiilar claims against the US.
"Obama administration officials have repeatedly argued that the bill would open up American government personnel and service members to lawsuits overseas."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/obama-veto-911-saudi-arabia/501491/

You mean the US, handmaiden of the UK and aided by Aus, would actually have to face up to it's war crimes and pay reparation like they made other countries do?

peteepie · ‎26-09-2016

Trump won't be elected.

The scary thing is if Hillary stuffs up we might get Ted Cruz in 2020 as leader of the free world. God help us then.

Obama is a great man and if he'd had a decent go at it without an obstructionist Congress led by self-interested politicians he would have been one of the great presidents. This veto is just another example of him doing the right thing. He will be missed.

davidc4430 · ‎26-09-2016

its unlikely trump will get the top job, but we all thought he wouldnt get far in the first place after anouncing he was running.

as much as i fear for the entire world if he does get elected,

i have that little devil sitting on my shoulder whispering 'wont it be fun to watch trump as president?'

peteepie · ‎26-09-2016

@davidc4430 wrote:

i have that little devil sitting on my shoulder whispering 'wont it be fun to watch trump as president?'

You're not alone!

It's like watching a cartoon come to life.

icyfroth · ‎26-09-2016

The point is that people like Pauline Hanson and Donald Trump and Jeremy Corbyn can get elected because they sick and tired of being misled and lied to by their governments and are looking for alternatives.

tezza2844 · ‎26-09-2016

@lionrose.7 wrote:
The thought of Trump getting in scares the hell out of me

It's not only the presidency we should be scare of, it's also the vice- presidency as well:

What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change.

I have made good judgements in the Past. I have made good judgements in the Future.

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things.

One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice-president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.

The future will be better tomorrow.

We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world.

For NASA, space is still a high priority.

The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.

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tezza2844 · ‎26-09-2016

@icyfroth wrote:
The point is that people like Pauline Hanson and Donald Trump and Jeremy Corbyn can get elected because they sick and tired of being misled and lied to by their governments and are looking for alternatives.

They get elected because of the gullibility of their followers in believing that the simplistic policies and arguments put forward will get them a better standard of living than they can achieve on their own merits or opportunities.

It appeals to their sense of injustice that certain others can/will do better unless restrictions are placed on them.

For a nation built of immigration to criticize and ban people from other countries and cultures must be the height of hypocrisy.

lind9650 · ‎26-09-2016

For all it is worth, here are my 2 cents.

Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton ====== God help America, God help the rest of the world!

Neither one is capable of running a country for the benefit of its people or work toward peace and unity in this world.

It's a shame that America has only a limited time for the elected President.

Erica