mloreason
Community Member

on ‎01-11-2016 07:21 PM

This country's "own" people are the people you are talking about - if they have become Australian citizens. So they are bound by this country's laws. It is illegal to marry someone under the age of 16. So if girls under that legal age are being forced to marry then the law is there to protect them. First though it needs to be reported. So perhaps what is needed is better education so that these young girls are aware of their rights.

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icyfroth
Community Member
In response to mloreason

on ‎02-11-2016 06:50 AM

Educated or not, Australian Muslim girls still will be duty bound to follow the customs and expectations of their own culture.

 

To report it would be to bring shame on the community and possibly put the girl into danger of her life if she were to do so. What young girl of 12 or so dare to go against her parents and run to the police?

 

 

Quite easy to disguise a child bride as a relative of the family if authorities come knocking.

 

Who'd sort out the family tree?

village_person
Community Member
In response to mloreason

on ‎02-11-2016 09:53 AM

@mloreason wrote:
This country's "own" people are the people you are talking about - if they have become Australian citizens. So they are bound by this country's laws. It is illegal to marry someone under the age of 16. So if girls under that legal age are being forced to marry then the law is there to protect them. First though it needs to be reported. So perhaps what is needed is better education so that these young girls are aware of their rights.

Our laws are only good if our 'representatives' enforce them. At one time we had a judge who haunted the toilets at Wynyard station looking for young boys. The police special branch drove him home rather than create a scandal. Our fabulous 'law' being enforced by police.

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peteepie
Community Member
In response to village_person

on ‎02-11-2016 12:32 PM

 

Thought we were talking about Australia, not Tassie.

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mloreason
Community Member
In response to peteepie

on ‎02-11-2016 06:45 PM

I know. Let's just ban them from coming to Australia. That will solve the problem of child brides. Oh wait.....

icyfroth
Community Member
In response to mloreason

on ‎02-11-2016 07:20 PM

I know you're being a bit playful, there, plor, but banning all Muslims from entering Australia is neither a workable nor desirable option.

 

The problem of getting them to recognise our law as being over that of the Prophet's is a whole 'nother matter, however.

tezza2844
Community Member
In response to icyfroth

on ‎02-11-2016 07:44 PM

@icyfroth wrote:

Educated or not, Australian Muslim girls still will be duty bound to follow the customs and expectations of their own culture.

 

 

Unfortunately these "customs" apply to cultures  as well as nationalities. There are countries where arranged marriages are the norm and there are religions which require their " flock" to marry within their religion(sect). In a lot of cases age is not a consideration to stop these practices

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village_person
Community Member
In response to peteepie

on ‎02-11-2016 08:13 PM

@peteepie wrote:

 

Thought we were talking about Australia, not Tassie.

Ooooh, that's a bit naughty. We might have taswegians viewing this topic 🙂

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icyfroth
Community Member
In response to tezza2844

on ‎02-11-2016 09:02 PM

@tezza2844 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:

Educated or not, Australian Muslim girls still will be duty bound to follow the customs and expectations of their own culture.

 

 

Unfortunately these "customs" apply to cultures  as well as nationalities. There are countries where arranged marriages are the norm and there are religions which require their " flock" to marry within their religion(sect). In a lot of cases age is not a consideration to stop these practices

Your point being?

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johcaschro
Community Member

‎03-11-2016 02:41 AM - edited ‎03-11-2016 02:45 AM

Of course all cultures are not equal,

 

but rather than discussing the relative pros and cons of certain "cultures" (I could rave on and on about our dismal footy-mates-and-all-with-the-long-suffering-wifey-bringing-the-beers-to-the-men-who-think-they-can-cook-steak-and-snags-on-a-barbie-and have-the-apron-to-prove-it, type of "culture"),

 

 perhaps we could better discuss the sort of culture where a young woman makes a complaint to the police which is cavalierly ignored, maybe because of certain  fears within the culture of the police force (and within Govt too) that, if responded to and investigated vigorously,  they might offend the cultural sensitivities of a minority of others who think that their culture which condones forcible child marriage is the you-beaut new-Australian way to go.

 

and who have the votes to back up that opinion