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on 12-02-2017 09:41 AM
judges dont go out looking for evedence to back their verdicts.
a judge is just there to judge the evedence put before them by prosecution and defence.
if this evedence wasnt put to the the judge then its not the judges fault he or she ruled saying there was no evedence supporting the defence case.
if this evedence was unrefutable to show terrorists were comming into the USA from the countries banned by prez trump it was the responsiblity of the trump team to put it to the judge.
dont shoot the messanger because you dont like the message.
prez trump seems to think the judge should have gone out and searched for evedence to back prez trumps views. it doesnt work that way, never has, never should.
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on 16-02-2017 01:43 PM
@davidc4430 wrote:judges dont go out looking for evedence to back their verdicts.
a judge is just there to judge the evedence put before them by prosecution and defence.
if this evedence wasnt put to the the judge then its not the judges fault he or she ruled saying there was no evedence supporting the defence case.
if this evedence was unrefutable to show terrorists were comming into the USA from the countries banned by prez trump it was the responsiblity of the trump team to put it to the judge.
dont shoot the messanger because you dont like the message.
prez trump seems to think the judge should have gone out and searched for evedence to back prez trumps views. it doesnt work that way, never has, never should.
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on 16-02-2017 01:44 PM
Put this in your pipe....
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on 16-02-2017 03:27 PM
@village_person wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:Donald Trump says judge's block on travel ban 'will be overturned' as passengers board flights
how long before they start rounding up judges and jailing them?
then who next?
hitler, they said it could never happen again, seems they were wrong.
Maybe they could round up a few alleged judges and send them to education camps.
Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries
By PAUL BEDARD (@SECRETSBEDARD) • 2/11/17 10:13 AM
Since 9/11, 72 individuals from the seven mostly Muslim countries covered by President Trump's "extreme vetting" executive order have been convicted of terrorism, a finding that clashes sharply with claims from an appeals court that there is "no evidence" those countries have produced a terrorist.
According to a report out Saturday, at least 17 claimed to be refugees from those nations, three came in as "students," and 25 eventually became U.S. citizens.
The Center for Immigration Studies calculated the numbers of convicted terrorists from the Trump Seven:
— Somalia: 20
— Yemen: 19
— Iraq: 19
— Syria: 7
— Iran: 4
— Libya: 2
— Sudan: 1
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/
http://www.snopes.com/countries-terrorists-come/
A bit of context. The bolded ones are the 'banned; countries.
- United States 73
- Pakistan 62
- Lebanon 28
- Somalia 21
- Colombia 20
- Yemen 20
- Iraq 19
- Egypt 17
- Jordan 17
- Afghanistan 10
- Palestine 9
- Saudi Arabia 9
- India 9
- Gaza 7
- Syria 7
- Morocco 6
- Kuwait 6
- Canada 6
- West Bank 6
- Indonesia 5
- United Kingdom 5
- El Salvador 4
- Iran 4
- Turkey 4
- Guyana 3
- Albania 3
- Mali 3
- Bangladesh 3
- Tunisia 3
- Sri Lanka 3
- Sudan 2
- Libya 2
- Senegal 2
- Venezuela 2
- Tanzania 2
- Singapore 2
- Haiti 2
- Bosnia 2
- Eritrea 2
- France 2
- Nigeria 2
- Kazakhstan 2
- Ethiopia 2
- Algeria 2
- Kosovo 2
- South Africa 2
- Uzbekistan 1
- Germany 1
- Qatar 1
- Greece 1
- Mexico 1
- Djibouti 1
- Philippines 1
- Sudan 1
- Vietnam 1
- Cambodia 1
- Australia 1
- Ivory Coast 1
- Yugoslavia 1
- Nicaragua 1
- Russia 1
- Trinidad and Tobago 1
- Dominican Republic 1
- South Korea 1
- Brazil 1
- Panama 1
- Peru 1
- Paraguay 1
- Guatemala 1
- Chile 1
- Israel 1
- Malaysia 1
- Angola 1
- Denmark 1
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on 16-02-2017 04:39 PM
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on 25-02-2017 08:26 PM
February 23 2017
A Florida pastor who took his 11-year-old daughter to campaign-style rally for President Donald Trump said he hoped the event would serve as a civics lesson - but that it turned instead into a spectacle where "demonic activity was palpable."
Joel Tooley, lead pastor at Melbourne First Church of the Nazarene in eastern Florida, said that when he heard that the president and first lady would be passing through town, he decided to go see them in person.
Pastor felt 'demonic' behaviour at Trump rally
Anger, vengeance and "religious zeal" are the feelings President Donald Trump stirred up as his returned to the campaign trail, says Orlando Pastor Joel Tooley.
"I am enough of a sentimentalist that when I found out THEEEE President was coming to town, I got online quickly and reserved two tickets," he wrote on Facebook.
But the rally last weekend was not what the pastor had in mind.
"As people were coming in, there was a lot of excitement and a strong sense of patriotism," Tooley wrote.
However, during a rendition of "God Bless the USA," some attendees began to sing along and raise their hands in an almost religious way.
"People were being ushered into a deeply religious experience," Tooley wrote, "and it made me completely uncomfortable.
"I love my country; I honour those who sacrificed their lives for our freedom and I respect our history and what we stand for, but what I experienced in that moment sent shivers down my spine. I felt like people were here to worship an ideology along with the man who was leading it. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't the song per se - it was this inexplicable movement that was happening in the room. It was a religious zeal."
Tooley could not immediately be reached, and the White House did not immediately respond to a request for a comment.
On Saturday, Tooley said, he talked his daughter into going with him to the rally in Melbourne, near Orlando.
"After all, how many times do you get to see the President of the United States in person - let alone in your hometown?" Tooley wrote. "I was eager for her to have this experience. It has to be a pretty cool thing, as a kid to see Air Force One, the President and the First Lady."
Once the duo made it through the lengthy line, he said, they were handed pom-poms and signs reading, "Make America Great Again!"
They were then ushered into a massive crowd at Orlando Melbourne International Airport.
The music, he said, moved from patriotic to pep rally - "more Star Wars themed." Then Air Force One rolled up to the airplane hangar.
"As they entered the venue and walked to the platform, there was terrific celebration," Tooley wrote. "I have been in the room when other Presidents were in a similar mode - it is always such a meaningful experience to be that close to them, regardless of whether or not you view them with adoration. Theeeee President of the USA!"
"The First Lady approached the platform and in her rich accent, began to recite the Lord's prayer," he added. "I can't explain it, but I felt sick. This wasn't a prayer beseeching the presence of Almighty God, it felt theatrical and manipulative. People across the room were reciting it as if it were a pep squad cheer. At the close of the prayer, the room erupted in cheering. It was so uncomfortable. I observed that Mr. Trump did not recite the prayer until the very last line, 'be the glory forever and ever, amen!' As he raised his hands in the air, evoking a cheer from the crowd, "USA! USA! USA!"
Trump told the crowd he wanted to speak of "our incredible progress in making America great again" - but "without the filter of the 'fake news.'"
Although the past several presidents have waited more than two years each before jumping back onto the campaign trail, Trump's first four weeks in office have shown that he just can't stand too much time in Washington, as The Washington Post has reported.
One adviser calls political rallies the president's "oxygen" - and Trump seemed to direly need a deep inhalation following a week that included his national security adviser resigning and his top replacement pick turning him down, his nominee for labor secretary withdrawing from consideration and accusations involving his campaign and Russia.
"Life is a campaign," the president told reporters aboard Air Force One. "Making our country great again is a campaign. For me, it's a campaign."
During the presidential rally, Tooley, the pastor from Florida, said that Trump's speech evoked an "angry response from the crowd" toward others.
He wrote:
I heard two ladies off to my left chanting, not yelling or screaming but chanting, "T-R -- U-M-P; that's how you spell - bigotry!" They repeated the rhyme over and over.
"I'm trying to separate how I actually feel about this man and his campaignisms," Tooley wrote. "I know why people voted for him; I know why people voted against his opponent. But, at the end of the day, what I felt from his leadership in this experience was actually horrifying. There was palpable fear in the room. There was thick anger and vengeance. He was counting on it. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that it would not have taken very much for him to have called this group of people into some kind of riotous reaction."
Washington Post
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on 26-02-2017 12:19 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-26/muhammad-ali-jr-detained-at-florida-airport/8304346
about time they caught all those terrorists sneaking into the USA pretending to be related to famous people!
TRUMPS YA MAN MAKIN THE USA GREAT AGAIN
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on 05-03-2017 11:22 AM
"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"
I think he needs his wires straightened and the joints re soldered as he seems to have an intermitent tweeter breakdown.
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on 05-03-2017 11:28 AM
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on 05-03-2017 08:01 PM
I imagine Snopes will be onto it before too lon so I'll reserve my judgement till then. I doubt very much that Obama would have been personally responsible, but, it wouldn't shock me were I to learn that both sides had got up to a bit of jiggerypokery.