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on 25-04-2020 11:22 AM
that man has more money than sense... hydroxychloroquine is a drug that's used for the treatment of lupus and is an immune system repressant with side effects causing heart arrhythmia.. trials have shown it to be unsuccessful in treating CV 19
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on 25-04-2020 11:36 AM
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-24/how-fox-news-followed-trumps-coronavirus-narrative/12176748
This week, officials in Santa Clara County, California, confirmed the first known death from COVID-19 actually happened on February 6, a full 20 days earlier than previously reported.
They also believe the woman who died contracted the virus through the community, which suggests it was silently spreading in the United States as early as the beginning of January.
That renders praise for Donald Trump's China travel ban and argument about the timing of the World Health Organization's warnings somewhat meaningless.
The virus was already there.
If that's all true then that would raise a few concerns on how and it would possibly make them the first country to
be infected outside of China?
That would also bring the conspiracy theories into place as it being payback for their sanctions after all it hasn't
had a big impact in China when it's compared to the huge impact it has had on the rest of the world.
China doesn't value the lives of their own citizens and would use them as pawn to advance their own perceived status.
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on 25-04-2020 11:43 AM

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on 25-04-2020 12:16 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
Clive Palmer has purchased 32,900,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, and donated the supply to the National Medical Stockpile.
The controversial businessman believes the much-hyped malaria drug is the “best hope” for those suffering COVID-19.
He's also taken out a special two page spread in the West Australian (and probably other papers too) to advertise the fact.
If interested you might want to follow up on clinical trials in process by Mahir Ozmen, a professor of surgery at the Istinye University, School of Medicine in Istanbul, Turkey
The rationale is noted here
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200409/chloroquine-zinc-tested-to-block-covid-infection
note : needs zinc , note Chloroquine is only administered every 2 weeks, not 3 x day at 200% overdosed on patients with pre-existing heart conditions ...
there are other large clinical trials being conducted with months required for results so might be a little to totally judge as ineffective and reeks a bit of big-vaccine-vested interests
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25-04-2020 12:21 PM - edited 25-04-2020 12:21 PM
@debra9275 wrote:that man has more money than sense... hydroxychloroquine is a drug that's used for the treatment of lupus and is an immune system repressant with side effects causing heart arrhythmia.. trials have shown it to be unsuccessful in treating CV 19
Actually sound medical teams are still in the process of double-blind testing which takes months
btw , one usually excludes those who might die from the treatment rather than the disease unless you want the treatment to fail...
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200409/chloroquine-zinc-tested-to-block-covid-infection
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on 25-04-2020 01:29 PM
Sounds a lot like Trump and the Republicans.
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on 25-04-2020 05:36 PM
About 20% who get COVID 19 end up in ICU, many will survive but that does not mean they will return to their normal life
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-next-coronavirus-nightmare-is-what-happens-after-the-icu
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on 25-04-2020 05:43 PM
@rogevibe wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
Clive Palmer has purchased 32,900,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, and donated the supply to the National Medical Stockpile.
The controversial businessman believes the much-hyped malaria drug is the “best hope” for those suffering COVID-19.
He's also taken out a special two page spread in the West Australian (and probably other papers too) to advertise the fact.
If interested you might want to follow up on clinical trials in process by Mahir Ozmen, a professor of surgery at the Istinye University, School of Medicine in Istanbul, Turkey
The rationale is noted here
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200409/chloroquine-zinc-tested-to-block-covid-infection
note : needs zinc , note Chloroquine is only administered every 2 weeks, not 3 x day at 200% overdosed on patients with pre-existing heart conditions ...
there are other large clinical trials being conducted with months required for results so might be a little to totally judge as ineffective and reeks a bit of big-vaccine-vested interests
There are people who take Chloroquine for Lupus and other conitions; there is NO indication that they are less likely to get coronaviru. People testing this drug are NOT idiots. Finding cure/prevention is in everyboy's interest. If Chloroquine worked people testing it would be only too happy.
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on 25-04-2020 05:44 PM
@*kazumi* wrote:About 20% who get COVID 19 end up in ICU, many will survive but that does not mean they will return to their normal life
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-next-coronavirus-nightmare-is-what-happens-after-the-icu
Is clearly different than the flu as once established is very persistent - with some being in care for six weeks and then another two weeks isolation when released , with at this time no assurance of reinfection ( like malaria )
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on 25-04-2020 06:06 PM
Persistent - now that covers it. lol