Hi Dame and nice to see you about. Its a totally free country say what how and when you like. as i will say what i want at any time........that is part of living in a democracy. A democracy that has been maintained by many committed Australians that have put their lives on the line to maintain it., and are continuing to put their lives on the line to try and maintain a reasonable standard of living. I have never suffered fools easily....and have always and will always be like that.......and take great exception to people that come to this country and cant be bothered or are too arrogant to take up Australian citizenship. We dont need leeches like that here taking up space........only too willing to hold their hands out for whatever....for whatever they can grab from the government.....whatever services they can bludge and cadge off.....but dont have the moral fortitude to say this is my country and im going to be real proud to call myself an Australian., and thereby swear allegiance.

Well said JV

I know who you are referring to. In response to your post to my thread too much of a coincidence you going on about citizenship here.

1. I am no fool.
2. Australian citizenship is not mandatory.
3. I am certainly not a leach having worked full time in Aus from 1986 until 2004 and paid my taxes.

I don't want an argument I just wanted to correct your very wrong impression.

My son in law is not an Australian citizen. He has permanent residency here. Has worked for the 22 years he has been here. Receives nothing from the government ( neither does my daughter). Never whinges about the government. I am sorry that some see everyone who comes to this country in this light.

hey all
hey beryl, beryl dont worry about it, its not important, can't understand why all the angst about it, its your business and your decision!! how are you anyway? I am so waiting for winter,, its been far too hot for far too long and we are desperate for rain here in what I call the best state in oz (SA) LOL

hope that bella is getting better , and big waves to scatty, missy, jv and anyone else that considers me a friend ...seems I have lost a few over the last two days..oh well c'est la vie....

I am feeling better today, a lil tired perhaps but it has been one of those days, when i have done a few things , but when I look around it does not look like I have achieved much..

going on holidays soon, off to tasmania, to visit some friends from my church , and meeting up with another friend, wanting to go before the winter sets in so it looks like may is the go... can't wait...its going to be exactly what I need

well have a good night, and stay well!

My son in law is not an Australian citizen. He has permanent residency here. Has worked for the 22 years he has been here. Receives nothing from the government ( neither does my daughter). Never whinges about the government. I am sorry that some see everyone who comes to this country in this light.

I can only imagine what it would be like to go and live in a different country. It would be a huge thing to give up the citizenship of the country of your birth. Does Australia offer dual citizenship? I would think that might make it an easier decision to make.

Dual citizenship

It is possible to hold citizenship of two or more countries if the law of those countries allow. This is known as dual, or multiple, citizenship.

People can become dual citizens automatically, or after being granted citizenship of another country.

For example, an Australian citizen may automatically gain citizenship of another country through marriage, while a permanent resident of Australia may become a dual citizen by becoming an Australian citizen.

Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically.
Can you become a dual citizen?

Australia allows its citizens to hold dual nationality. Other countries may not. To check if your country allows its citizens to hold dual or multiple citizenships, contact the embassy or consulate of that country in Australia.

Hi Dame and nice to see you about. Its a totally free country say what how and when you like. as i will say what i want at any time........that is part of living in a democracy. A democracy that has been maintained by many committed Australians that have put their lives on the line to maintain it., and are continuing to put their lives on the line to try and maintain a reasonable standard of living. I have never suffered fools easily....and have always and will always be like that.......and take great exception to people that come to this country and cant be bothered or are too arrogant to take up Australian citizenship. We dont need leeches like that here taking up space........only too willing to hold their hands out for whatever....for whatever they can grab from the government.....whatever services they can bludge and cadge off.....but dont have the moral fortitude to say this is my country and im going to be real proud to call myself an Australian., and thereby swear allegiance.

Jen, you know that there are many out here that have contributed in such a huge way and yet never asked for anything in return, and yet they are not Australian citizens, many have reasons not to, some reasons are plain stupid and some are genuine and mean something to some,
my mother has been here for 48 years and will not become a citizen, she thinks it will mean that she is not loyal to her home land (England) I think thats a silly reason, but that me , its not up to me but up to my mum..

if it were not for some immigrants this great country of ours may well have been a very different place..

we have surgeons out here and volunteers in many areas that are not citizens and then we have those that devote their time to help those less fortunate and those that help our native animals , whether they be as small as a mouse or as big as a horse, Australia is about giving everyone a fait go,and thats what i believe..

Hi PJ I am OK. Weather here is lovely in the day but we get rain at night. I wish I could send you some.

Depends which country you come from Rosie. I know UK and NZ don't have to give up their citizenship.
Curretly I have UK and NZ citizenship.

My father was a Scot so I can have a British Passport if I desire - I have no need for it, but my son can get one and work in UK because of it.

Hope he doesnt tho cos I will miss him LOL

I can only imagine what it would be like to go and live in a different country. It would be a huge thing to give up the citizenship of the country of your birth. Does Australia offer dual citizenship? I would think that might make it an easier decision to make.

Rosie he can not take up Australian citizenship and retain his Singaporean citizenship. It is not allowed in Singapore. he will be returning to Singapore in the future and taking S with him. :_|