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on 16-10-2013 07:36 PM
So you got exactly what you ordered, but wanted to neg the seller for your PERCEPTION of their attitude? Which has nothing to do with 'description', 'postage time' or 'postage cost' and would only marginally impact 'communication'. There are NO DSRs for 'attitude'.
Says everything, really. Maybe your lawyer was correct - you would be guilty of defamation in that case, as your negative would be undeserved, unfounded and defamatory.
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on 16-10-2013 07:50 PM
What JHOS is saying about their legal advice just isn't true.
No lawyer would say that punitive or examplary damages could be awarded for a defamation case. They teach that on the first day of law school!
and as for the rest - it's just wrong.
I think it is time to raise the flag
Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
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on 16-10-2013 11:14 PM
Exemplary and punitive damages - that is, compensation in excess of the plaintiff's actual damage- can not be paid.
However, damages certainly are payable if the defamation is proven. I think Crikey is merely using terminology to ridicule james, which is a shame, on a public board.
If loss of income was part of the plaintiffs complaint in the first place, this income would certainly be taken into consideration when the judge was determining what damages may need to be paid. The cap for damages is $280 500
Defamation is a tort, or a civil wrong, which occurs when defamatory material relating to an individual is published. Material will be defamatory if it could:
- injure the reputation of the individual by exposing them to hatred, contempt or ridicule;
- cause people to shun or avoid the individual; or
- lower the individual’s estimation by right thinking members of society.
For a defamation action to be successful, three elements must be satisfied:
- the information was communicated by the defendant to a third person other than the plaintiff (publication);
- the material identifies the plaintiff (identification); and
- the information/material contains matter that is defamatory, regardless of whether the material was intentionally published or not (defamatory matter).
Provided that no defences are applicable, if the elements are satisfied then the defendant will be liable to pay damages to the plaintiff to compensate him or her for the damage caused to his or her reputation.
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on 16-10-2013 11:57 PM
*sigh*
I will always correct false information. JHOS stated that their advise said that they would be awarded punitive damages, and no lawyer or anyone capable of using google would say that as it just isn't true.
BTW
damages for non-economic loss is capped at $280 500 [current as at 20 June 2008 - this amount is reviewed on or before 1 July every year]
Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
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on 17-10-2013 03:24 PM
Anyway I put a claim in with PayPal they have seen in my favour I will just return them now and I think I will put more importance on a sellers feedback
Squeeze them into people's eyes