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on 09-01-2017 10:07 PM
@lane-ends wrote:
So yes it is dumb not having it. Likewise 1kg bracket
They had the 1kg for $10 offer a while back.
The 500+ gram parcel rules are quite annoying and complicated (+$/kg depending on state, cubing issues) but I'll grant them that since Australia is a big country.
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09-01-2017 10:16 PM - edited 09-01-2017 10:17 PM
@dazzledayz wrote:I can explain all this to you in a couple of sentences:
1st. Australia Post is being run by a managerial team compised of ex-bankers.
2nd. CEO Mohammed Fahour is ex-NAB and so are 7~8 of his fellow executive board members - either ex-NAB staff, advisers or contractors.
So to synopsize - If it's run by bankers it will be run like a bank and when was the last time your bank lowered its fees?
QED.
There are a few banks out there that appear to pass on savings to their customers sometimes but I take your point.
I didn't know they were all ex-NAB though. Meritocracy? Or just jobs for the old boys club? Isn't the CEO of the highest paid or one of the highest paid managers (public or private) in Australia? Even more than the PM?
Cus I dunno, seems to me they're not getting their money's worth. Any monkey can do things like cut staff or increase prices (above inflation level) but it takes a true innovator to make profits without using those old strategies.
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on 09-01-2017 11:15 PM
Yep totally agree, but....
AP are raking in huge increased profits since dumping the 250gm parcel rate and for that reason I can't see them bringing it back 😡
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on 10-01-2017 01:41 AM
@thegaminggamer wrote:
@lane-ends wrote:
So yes it is dumb not having it. Likewise 1kg bracket
They had the 1kg for $10 offer a while back.
The 500+ gram parcel rules are quite annoying and complicated (+$/kg depending on state, cubing issues) but I'll grant them that since Australia is a big country.
I think if you're posting inside your own state there is kind of a 500g-1kg rate, but not advertised as such, at $11.35. Interstate it's far cheaper to use a 3kg satchel if it will fit in (I box my items then put in a satchel). From NSW to WA, it's cheaper to even use a 5kg satchel if it's a bit large for a 3kg, than posting a 700g item as a parcel.
Again from NSW to WA, it's cheaper to send a 700g item in an express 3kg satchel than it is to post as a regular parcel. $15.65 in an express 3kg satchel compared to $19.30 for a normal slow rate parcel. It makes no sense!
Given that I rarely post anything over 500g, I'm only paying the same regardless of where it's going in the country. A lot of my items are under 250g, so I for one would like to see that rate come back. Sadly, it will never happen.
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on 10-01-2017 02:45 PM
I have been wishing for a 0-250g parcel rate for years, just like I have been wishing for the post offices to actually bother opening on Saturdays and Sundays so I can actually send things on those days - the few post offices that do open Saturdays - and only to 12 or 1PM at that - doesn't cut it (the thing about AP and ex-bankers is also interesting, considering they have the same useless "bank" hours and take every single "bank" holiday off). The joke with Australia Post is, they are shifting mail delivery from the public/government-run system (Australian Postal Corporation) to a privately owned for-profit parcel delivery/courier company (Australia Post) by getting people to pay parcel rates for regular mail. No wonder the mail system is running at a loss when almost everything has to go as a parcel, media or not (even paper, for those stuck in the 1950s thinking that all media is printed entirely on paper as opposed to SD cards, USB drives, Wii Optical Discs and anything else) simply because of an arbitrary depth limit of 2 centimetres. Which I might add is 2.54cm (1 inch) over in England.
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on 10-01-2017 03:51 PM
I look at it this way. You can buy $1.00 item (including postage) from ebay seller in China or HongKong. But seller in Australia can never deliver item for $1.00 to overseas destination. How can they do it so cheap? We need a senate enquiry on Aust post fee & charges. They are inhibiting online business growth.
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on 10-01-2017 09:13 PM
I think if you're posting inside your own state there is kind of a 500g-1kg rate, but not advertised as such, at $11.35. Interstate it's far cheaper to use a 3kg satchel if it will fit in (I box my items then put in a satchel). From NSW to WA, it's cheaper to even use a 5kg satchel if it's a bit large for a 3kg, than posting a 700g item as a parcel.
Again from NSW to WA, it's cheaper to send a 700g item in an express 3kg satchel than it is to post as a regular parcel. $15.65 in an express 3kg satchel compared to $19.30 for a normal slow rate parcel. It makes no sense!
Given that I rarely post anything over 500g, I'm only paying the same regardless of where it's going in the country. A lot of my items are under 250g, so I for one would like to see that rate come back. Sadly, it will never happen.
My understanding of the way AP works out the distance rates is based on their zones.
Adjacent Zones have a concessional rate for larger parcels but this reduces to minimal if your parcel jumps a zone ie Q1 to Q3.
It is also weight/size dependent so you should consult the AP online calculator or the PDF rate document.
After a very short distance flat rate satchels will work out cheaper.
There are a couple of cheap options which you should use when possible:
1. Same zone - $10.05 flat >500g up to 22kg
2. Interzone 50km rate - ditto
This one is a bit tricky but works like this - if your parcel is going into an adjacent zone and the customers delivery centre is within 50km of the originating PO then the same zone rate applies ie $10.05 flat for up to 22kg.
Most PO's should be aware of this by now but some LPO's may try to screw you or inexperienced staff may not even know about it.
Regarding the 250g parcel I should point out a couple of reasons why it can never make a comeback:
1. Contract delivery drivers (that's all AP parcel drivers) are paid $2.00 for each parcel they deliver and this is their only income.
You can see how delivery cost would soon overtake profits if 250g was less th about $5.00
2. In their infinite wisdom AP design criteria for high speed letter sorting equipment set the max thickness at 20mm - go figure.
However (and it's a big however) small parcel delivery is usually by ordinary postie so no $2.00 per.
Unfortunately, AP account for ALL parcels in the same way so even though the delivery cost is -$2 the accounting will read as +$2.
Remember I mentioned earlier that AP management was pretty good at speadsheets?
*ankers - you fill in the missing letter as you see fit.
They used this method of mendacious accounting when arguing for the letter rate rises.
They never told the ACCC that a goodly number of those parcels they make so much money from should actually share profit with the letter stream.
Good honest folk that AP management are it was probably just an oversight though so no fault no foul right?
As for the apparently cheap cost of sending a parcel from UK to Aus - Royal Mail apparently organized a good deal for bulk air cargo - a neat trick that AP seem incapable of doing but then they're not very good at logistics or volume it would appear.
With regard the cheap cost of mail out of China - that's Chinese govt subsidy at work which we could deal with in one of at least 2 ways:
1. Our own anti-dumping legisaltion (political will needed here)
2. Our abstention from the UPU termnal dues agreement along with NZ and Canada - we all reserved the right to charge for local delivery but never acted on it (more political will needed).
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on 10-01-2017 10:08 PM
I don't know how you access the local rates. I just did a check with AP's price calculator, from one side of Canberra to the other, and got $11.45 for a 1kg parcel, and $14.15 for 3kg.
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11-01-2017 09:32 AM - edited 11-01-2017 09:34 AM
@davewil1964 wrote:I don't know how you access the local rates. I just did a check with AP's price calculator, from one side of Canberra to the other, and got $11.45 for a 1kg parcel, and $14.15 for 3kg.
Dave it looks like the cheap flat rate is not available to you locally in Canberra (N2), only in N1 zone - Sydney.
You will have to talk to your postmaster at the nearest Business Centre (NOT an LPO) about accessing the 50km rate I mentioned above - there is a checkbox or button on their POS screen which needs to be used for the 50km rates to be accessed.
They provide this so localish country parcel post can access the same rate structure as capital cities.
Check out the Parcel Post Guides at:
Here's what mine looks like for Brisbane:
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on 11-01-2017 10:50 AM
Thanks.
Typical AP con job. It's cheaper to send parcels from Canberra to Sydney than Canberra to Canberra. It would seem because they lump the ACT in with all of NSW that isn't Sydney.