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on 18-05-2013 08:21 PM
I thnk you will find that the ombudsman has no authority over ebay as they are a cyber company not based in Australia. I think the only solution is that suggested by *sparklz* above. A lot of effort but thats always the way with the law and is why so many people get away with so much.
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on 18-05-2013 09:01 PM
There are plenty of members who will assure you that the ombudsman does indeed have jurisdiction over Paypal Australia. They have to have a financial services licence to operate in this country, thus are subject to the FOS.
Usually it only takes a threat of the ombudsman to get satisfaction, so Paypal seem to think the ombudsman has authority.
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on 18-05-2013 10:30 PM
The only paypal dispute I have had as a seller was for a clothing item.
Buyer had left pos feedback after receiving item, then a week later told me she was unhappy as the item was stained.
She returned it very obviously stained and bleached to try and remove what appeared to be red wine.
When I attempted to discuss with her she filed a paypal dispute.
I could of course been dishonest and claimed not to have received the item back.
Despite sending paypal invoice copies etc and speaking with them and emailing they still refunded the buyer in full.
But following advice from here I contacted the financial ombudsmen straight away, then rang paypal and gave them the info re my complaint again and my money was refunded immediately.
Buyer got away with it though !!
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on 19-05-2013 12:23 AM
How can Paypal possibly know which of you was telling the truth, you could have removed them from the housing and taken a photo just as easily as the buyer could have removed them before returning.
You should have emailed the seller telling them they had 48 hours to close the dispute and release the funds back to you or you would be taking the package they returned and all their details to the police so they would face charges of obtaining money by deception.
If they did not do so you should indeed have gone to the police station and got a crime report number which should then have been given to Paypal who would almost certainly have decided in your favour.
It says in this book I am reading that by 2065 80% of women will be overweight.
See what a trendsetter I am?
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on 19-05-2013 08:32 PM
Yeh thats not right.I would take it further and make a report to the local police. I would hope that would at least put a scare into them.
Squeeze them into people's eyes
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on 04-06-2013 06:54 PM
HI
Just an update ...paypal have given my total amount back
i had to go and report it to the police which i did and got a card off the officer with his name ,event number etc and sent it to paypal
paypal would accept it as they said they needed it on a police letterhead with the a statement of the events,his name,badge number ,etc...
i informed them that the police offer said they dont provide that and for them to call him
i told paypal to call the police station and they said they wouldnt
they said i now have to supply a stat decleration which i did
they then refunded me my funds after jumping thru all their hoops and complaining
i had informed them that i think they try and make it so hard and time consuming in the hope that for smaller amount of say under a $100.00 most sellers wont bother to claim next time as cost to business would outweigh the refund amount
no matter how small the amount nor how time consuming it would be every seller should pursue paypal to get their funds if wrongly done by
hopefully it also goes on record for the purchaser so that if he makes a habit of it they can find against him in future claims and prevent another innocent party having to go thru this
regards
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on 04-06-2013 06:59 PM
Good to hear. Persistence (and knowing your rights) wins.
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on 04-06-2013 07:03 PM
Great news.
When I had to do that they called the police station to verify what I told them and then I was refunded.
Well done and good on you for following it through.
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on 04-06-2013 07:05 PM
Sorry to hear of your problem but, even if any outside party was to get involved it still boils down to a he said/she said fight.
While you may not have received in return what you sent, ask yourself one thing first, can you prove you actually sent the gauges and housing? Even the weight of a posted parcel would not prove the correct item was sent.
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on 04-06-2013 07:06 PM
thanks for coming back to let us know the good (even if it was hard to get) news.