please explain who, except microsoft, suffers in any way.


It's clear that you have not given much thought before asking this question.

Everyone in the demand and supply chains suffer.

Retailers suffer. A seller peddling illegitimate software for 10-50% of what it costs retail takes business away from retailers who have spent their hard earned money to buy legitimate stock. The fake seller has no right to own stock, but can produce and profit from countless fakes.

Illegitimate software(or anything else) means less business for manufacturers and distributors of legitimate products.

Buyers suffer. Pirated software serial keys eventually get blocked, and the software stops working, or stops allowing updates, or the manufacturer won't provide support for the pirated software.

If you call people who care about piracy "software vigilantes", then consider yourself a piracy advocate.

I am outta here.

Yes,
I can see your point. Retailers of genuine software probably do lose a certain amount of business. But at the end of the day retail is a price driven industry. People (myself included) will always buy the cheaper version of the same article. And BTW, have you ever copied and burnt a software cd or dvd? Or downloaded a song off a P2P programme? I cant help but notice the silence that ensues whenever I ask this question of the self righteous software vigilante mob.

fredoz
Community Member

I bought W7 Ultimate 32 & 64 about a year ago, seemed OK to me, registered OK with MS.  Now just recently I have a black screen on start up with messages about illegal copies and so on.  While I can't find the original information about the seller, I recognised the auction page layout, it is still happening.  I have reported these listing to eBay, the first few were removed, the follow up reportings have been ignored.


Usually sellers have little or no past sales record, but one enterprising seller even set up feedback.


After reading above messages I believe eBay is not doing enough to prevent these forgery sellers.  As such I believe they are being party to the offences and should be charged along with the originating criminals.

Some of them are early "Engineering samples" not for home user - technically legit but not licencee transferable and/or now can not be activated.


I got stung via another auction site - no refund from the Seller , just lame excuses

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to post here.

 

It's obviously happening again.

 

I'm restarting this thread in the hope others will search and avoid an obvious scam.

 

Windows 7 is presumably popular due to XP no longer being supported.  I've just purchased WIN 7 ULT (Brand New - Unopened - Haha).  Box had been shrink wrapped to look new but the security seal was broken. Hologram was glued to disks and peeled off easily. You can guess the rest.

 

There are regular sellers popping up in "Hobart" but actually based in Malaysia offering "NEW -Unopene" Microsoft products and huge discounts. All user details are similar: Active on Ebay from around October/November 2011. 1 or 2 positive reviews (initally) followed by a quick sucession of very positive reviews since May 2014. Payment is always Paypal - with a 3 day turn around and 8-14 days delivery. 

 

My package originated from China, which would explain the delivery times.

 

I will obviously following this up and will post any reults here.

 

Mike

The "trans-pacific rip off"  whereby MS stand-alone software is doubled in price compared with the States , just because it is sold in Australia , adds to Buyer desperation for cost effective solutions

(The pricing will be interesting when  we are forced to purchase their cars from c 2017 )

Buy from retail store.

 

But it's good stuff for reporting the seller, but what do you know, the source needs to be stopped, not the effects. Get the source. 1-2 sources, thousands of sellers.

 

If I were M$ I would go for thousands of sellers, each to court, make mega buck$, keep source alive. More money 🙂

Welcome to the real world.

You have replied to an EIGHT YEAR old post. About obsolete, unsupported software.

 

Well done.