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@not_an_eloi wrote:

 

 

 

said in claire's thread,  

abbott's a devious mass debater,  and a troll.

 

rudd won the debate, proved his capability to ignore the tony troll's attempt to bait him, to try to best him as a person, by belittlement,  

tried to divert the conversation from the real issues.   he exposed abbott for failure to declare liberal's budget costin's, for their job loss plans, for their enormously-expensive paid parental leave programme (paid for by other australians, it would now appear), for their

slavish old ideas on work choices, etcetera

 

and finally, he exposed abbott for all to see, for his flamin' extreme arrogance

 

do australian want this offensive pig to be our future spokesperson,    no,    we flamin' don't

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Who are the we you refer to? And trolls? There were no trolls last night lol

TS, are you seriously giving a character reference and determining truth of someone's statement by a picture ?

If so we don't need the cost of the legal system .Maybe Tony can get rid of that ?

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I agree with you Az .

 

He said it to a PM and  publicly, in front of the audience as well as all viewers ....and today as well as in the future anyone reading about it in that context ...here in Australia and overseas .

 

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And many were saying it and thinking it before hand....we ceryainly were here. My daughter had only moments before said "does he ever shut up or know when to?"

TS, would you want our PM going overseas and saying that publicly to another Country's PM ?

If not Why is it OK  for Tony Abbott to do it here to our PM ?

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@twinkles**stars wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I agree with you Az .

 

He said it to a PM and  publicly, in front of the audience as well as all viewers ....and today as well as in the future anyone reading about it in that context ...here in Australia and overseas .

 

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And many were saying it and thinking it before hand....we ceryainly were here. My daughter had only moments before said "does he ever shut up or know when to?"

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debate = no speak ????

in what Country ?

Oh Iza lol

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@crystal**flake wrote:

To be honest I couldn't care less if the leader of our country was "nice" or not as long as he did his job.

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I agree to a degree.  In comparison with how some of the European political leaders debate, this is NOTHING.

I do believe however, there is no need to be rude towards people who are just doing their jobs such as make up artists or flight attendants.   It also gives you an insight into the true character.

NLP voters appear to be divertin' the topic, 'ere

(shades)

of greatest concern to me is the prospect of having a leader of our Country who thinks saying "everything I did was justified and can be justified" excuses him of any and all wrongdoing...even to the extent of being involved with the jailing of inncocent Australians

I'm not sure what you mean, Iza.  Can you expand on that a little more?  Examples perhaps?