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on 01-10-2013 10:44 PM
@monman12 wrote:A few men made the mistake of putting a woman without the strength and personal toughness into the PM role. Likewise it would seem so with Rudd. The sad thing is that her Poor Me performance has sullied the opportunity for women in the future, and there are sure to be plenty stronger than Gillard, and more than capable of being PM in the future.
So has Rudd's failure sullied the opportunity for men in the future?
A politician's shortcomings, be they real or merely perceived, may sully the opportunities for their party, but in a supposedly non-sexist society, what should any of that have to do with gender?
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on 01-10-2013 10:49 PM
Anybody notice the demise of our last PM, or feel like giving him some equal thread space?
I think there is more than a touch of matriarchal , dare I suggest, resonant sexism here, even perhaps a few cathartic posts.
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on 01-10-2013 11:14 PM
@monman12 wrote:A few men made the mistake of putting a woman without the strength and personal toughness into the PM role. Likewise it would seem so with Rudd. The sad thing is that her Poor Me performance has sullied the opportunity for women in the future, and there are sure to be plenty stronger than Gillard, and more than capable of being PM in the future.
What a load of rubbish.
She had more strength than most men and women.
As I've said before, it was not her talking about sexism. It was the people observing the blatant sexist attacks talking about it.
She did not react. She did take it in her stride. And she certainly did not sully the opportunity for any women in the future.
Do some research with an open mind!
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on 01-10-2013 11:31 PM
@monman12 wrote:A few men made the mistake of putting a woman without the strength and personal toughness into the PM role. Likewise it would seem so with Rudd. The sad thing is that her Poor Me performance has sullied the opportunity for women in the future, and there are sure to be plenty stronger than Gillard, and more than capable of being PM in the future.
MM I really can't discuss sexism or misogyny with you. I remember when my older son came home from hospital after an appendectomy one Friday morning and my younger son also arrived home from year 7 camp with gastroenteritis (most likely food poisoning) in the afternoon.
I was panic stricken because I was worried that older son would get it when he still had stitches.
All you bothered to read was that younger son had spewed in his bedroom and you told me "You're a mother, clean it up."
That was your bmw rider ID
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on 01-10-2013 11:35 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why, if we live in a non-sexist society, Gillard's perceived failure should be presumed to have stuffed things up for other women.
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on 01-10-2013 11:40 PM
And did you do what was suggesterd J?
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on 01-10-2013 11:43 PM
Thats easy to answer.
The men who installed her in the role, her own team, wont make the same mistake again 🙂
Others might , in a few generations
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on 01-10-2013 11:44 PM
Exactly She_el. Brian Burke was not the best for WA but other men have taken his place without being super dodgy.
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on 01-10-2013 11:49 PM
@poddster wrote:Thats easy to answer.
The men who installed her in the role, her own team, wont make the same mistake again 🙂
Others might , in a few generations
So you are saying tthe men who installed her presume she failed beacuse she was a woman?
Do the men who installed Rudd presume he failed because he was a man?
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on 01-10-2013 11:52 PM
@j*oono wrote:Exactly She_el. Brian Burke was not the best for WA but other men have taken his place without being super dodgy.
That was so wrong of me to say.
Brian Burke was super dodgy.
Julia Gillard is a brilliant woman and let's hope that many more like her are capable of filling her shoes in the future in politics.