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@catmad*2013 wrote:

hm.. I feel for people that had to do that and can't handle it.. sorry that happened... 

 

I have never had a problem... I always managed to get on very well with bosses and got good agreements or left... 

 

I feel that people should be able to bargain themselves though...why should only Unions be able to do that? 

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they can bargain themselves, but most of the time they need representation because unfortunately a large amount of employers will have the like it or leave it attitude.  I was in a workforce where union membership was mostly for the shift workers not admin staff yet I joined the union, not because I was pressured, because I wanted to.  I knew they would be there if I needed any assistance, never viewed them as a negative.  Work choices is what got the Howard govt removed, Hockey admitted it at the time, it was sent loud and clear - no work choices.  Where I worked I could see all the execs/managers getting massive bonuses, pay rises yet time and time again the staff were told - times are tough, freeze on payrises......yet lining their own pockets.  The old saying, the workers united will never be defeated!