Oh teeny, 

It is difficult to assist people who aren't completely ready to help themselves; and it is as if they've punched you and you are winded.

Sometimes we have to reject pleas of help from others, to help ourselves.  (Words from F. Scott Fitzgerald)

The well of Hope is infinitely deep and is hard to find sometimes amongst the undergrowth.  You WILL find it in time.  And perhaps DD will too.

DEB

[[[hugs]]] teeny.

Hi Duff!

hang in there teeny sometimes its darkest before light

sending hugs and gentle warm pats to those who could use them- take care

teeny

I don't always have the words, and your 'punched' post did me in. So very sorry.

Sending hugs teeny - hope things start looking a bit rosier for you soon.  You have been such a good mum - and I don't believe anyone have the perfect children (except me !!).

Hugs to everyone else who would like one.

My daughter has now gone 4 years on medication for bi-polar and has been going marvellous.

Great to hear that your daughter is doing well, Sandy. It can take a while for things to fall into place but finding the right meds certainly helps.