I have the utmost respect for anyone who has fought the battle of addiction and succeeded, your strength and will power is to be admired.

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@2106greencat wrote:

hand in hand joz - you take it one day at a time

 

so far 287 days for me, and it is bloody hard, and every day I have to convince myself to NOT have a drink, rather than latch on to the first excuse I can come up with to have one.

 

day by day

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after about 25 years "just for today" conditioning.. becomes second nature to you to the point of living for the moment

youre doing well greencat, and if you need to tell yourself each day.. i will not pick up a drink, then keep it up.. it's whatever works for you 

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@joz*garage wrote:

after about 25 years "just for today" conditioning.. becomes second nature to you to the point of living for the moment

 

youre doing well greencat, and if you need to tell yourself each day.. i will not pick up a drink, then keep it up.. it's whatever works for you 

  

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25 years. Awesome. That's really great Joz. 

For anyone who is afraid of AA or NA or Al Anon because of the "AA god thing". I want to say this:

You take what you need and leave the rest. 

Using the "god thing" as a reason for not getting sober or, in Al Anon for refusing to stop enabling a drunken addicted family member or friend is a lame excuse. 

AA, NA and Al Anon aren't  religions. 

You take what you need and leave the rest. 

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@just*duff wrote:

lol. 2 bottles and Im smashed, lol. I stick to one most usually.

 

some would say we arent fully recovered Joe because we still have a drink. well thats what AA and NA would say anyway.

 

to that I say, my life is manageable, so whats the problem.

 

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in a sense duff because you are submitting to a substance if your posion of choice was alcohol 

you gotta ask yourself why do i need a drink.. is there something underlying i should be dealing with instead 

and it could also be a reminder that you will always have an addictive personality

i went through detox twice, 2 weeks a program because hard drugs was my problem

there they encourage controlled drinking, lol. if you must have a drink after doing a recovery program that is

it boils down to if whatever substance youre using is screwing your life around, it's probably best to put it down altogether

i know i would never have another hit, be playin' on dangerous grounds if i thought i could just have one here and there

i also know i havent fully recovered too coz i have an occassional drink - substituting a mind mood altering substance, and i still smoke ciggies - know it's definitely no good for me but i still do it, it's insane 

Buzz, it is pretty funny to hear an ex alcoholic say that they have never hurt anyone as they don't even know what they did or said the night before.  

The damage is enormous.

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@just*duff wrote:

lol. 2 bottles and Im smashed, lol. I stick to one most usually.

 

some would say we arent fully recovered Joe because we still have a drink. well thats what AA and NA would say anyway.

 

to that I say, my life is manageable, so whats the problem.

 

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Oh dear.

I missed this post. 

Two bottles of what? 

Do you really believe you are recovered from your addiction?  

I ask because, in my opinion,  a recovered addict wouldn't  try to to publicly involve others in enabling and co-dependence of the addiction -

"some would say we arent fully recovered Joe because we still have a drink."

 2 bottles...