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@tall_bearded01 wrote:

 

As for, “What influences?  How about being bullied at school for looking different, and witnessing Muslims being called terrorists, and told to go "home",   and women wearing hijab on the street being spat on?  The hatred shown against people from middle eastern countries is worse than any other bigoted prejudice against any wave of new migrants before.”

 

Such statement beggars’ belief and are akin to excusing paedophilia because the offender were themselves molested as a child.

 

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I am not trying to excuse these idiots who support ISIS.  All what I am saying is that I understand why these kids feel disenfranchised from our society, and why they seek something else.  But in any case, to start with, we and the USA  applauded the insurgents in Syria; it would suit us to get rid of Bashar al-Assad.  Just as we supported the the Egyptian uprising, and look now what we have got.  As they say; one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.  By the way, I felt from the start that maybe we should not be so enthusiastic about the uprising in Syria.

Understanding that molested kids very often grow up to be molesters themselves, does not mean that we condone molesting kids.  But it is a good idea to give molested kids as much help and counseling as possible, to make sure that they do not go on molesting children themselves.  And making sure that kids are not bullied at school - for whatever reason.  It is in our interest as a society.

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

Im not trying to excuse these idiots who support ISIS.  All what I am saying is that I understand why these kids feel disenfranchised from our society, and why they seek something else.  But in any case, to start with, we and the USA  applauded the insurgents in Syria; it would suit us to get rid of Bashar al-Assad.  Just as we supported the the Egyptian uprising, and look now what we have got.  As they say; one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.  By the way, I felt from the start that maybe we should not be so enthusiastic about the uprising in Syria.

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Totally agree, but how does someone who has been convicted of plotting terrorist attacks against Australia IN AUSTRALIA still get a disability pension with which to fund his terrorist activities and ultimately to escape the country on a borrowed passport, undetected?

 

In WW's 1 and 2 any Italian, German, Japanese men of fighting age were interned for the duration of the war, and all property forfeit to the state, both in the US and Australia.

 

Nowadays we give them pensions, right.

 

He should never be let back into the country and his family should be kept under surveillance, seeing it was his brother's passport that was stolen.

 

I have no doubt these ppl see themselves as freedom fighters and I can see their point in many ways, the way US backed Israel throwing it's weight around in the Middle East.

I'm not sure I agree with bullying in school etc being a reason for men to go off and wage war against the country they were born and grew up in. The kind of hate radical extremists have is usually passed down through the generations from their parents and their parent's parents. Maybe compounded by racial intolerance, but not caused.

 

2 months extra of DSP...well, the wheels turn slowly and the government can reach into your bank account and take it back when they realise they've over paid you. Assuming it hadnt already been used of course.

 

I've been reluctant to say this in case its taken the wrong way, but an unmedicated schizophrenic is probably considered an asset to the terrorists.

 

I just hope they can track down all the Australians that are fighting and/or trainig to fight and stop them from returning here. probably easier said than done if they are Australian citizens.

 

 

 

citizenships can be revoked and in this case he should be stripped of his. As should his 300-odd  mates who are in the same situation.

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@icyfroth wrote:

citizenships can be revoked and in this case he should be stripped of his. As should his 300-odd  mates who are in the same situation.

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Even if they are born here?

yes a national can be stripped of their citizenship.

 

actually it would'nt surprise me if he has a dual Leb/Aus citizenship

Excellent, they can keep them all then!

 

 

 

 

Australian silence on human rights is our gift to Sri Lanka

 

 

http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2014/05/packer-behind-mahinda-abbott-friendship.html

Packer Behind Mahinda-Abbott Friendship?

 

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@icyfroth wrote:

yes a national can be stripped of their citizenship.

 

actually it would'nt surprise me if he has a dual Leb/Aus citizenship

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In the interest of Protecting our Borders we really need to know if and when Tony Abbott renounced his British citizenship? 44 (i) of the constitution http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s44.html COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 44 Disqualification Any person who: (i) is under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power;

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

seriously, you people can see nothing wrong with this?

he is too disabled to work, but can go overseas to fight...........right

 

 

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The wellbeing of service personnel and veterans with mental illnesses has always been secondary to the primary concerns of the military and of governments. During both world wars the fundamental role of the medical staff in the military was to maintain the ‘strength of the fighting force’.1 As such, psychiatric casualties were predominately treated close to the front line in field hospitals and clinics, and the majority were returned to active service to prevent desertion of soldiers with *fictitious mental illnesses*. http://www.api-network.com/main/index.php?apply=scholars&webpage=default&flexedit=&flex_password=&me... They were sent back to fight and did fight while suffering from Mental Illness. That was the past. Who would consider 'fit and well and 'work ready' now?