@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@curmu-curmu wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Sorry, I keep mixing up EVOLUTION with ABIOGENESIS. But then, so do most people who say they believe in EVOLUTION.

 

I don't see how you can confuse them. They are totally separate concepts

. Many Christians believe in evolution, but not in abiogenesis. i.e they believe God created some form of microbial life, which over billions of years evolved into all the species we see today.

Most scientistshowever, do believe in abiogenesis i.e. that life originally arose from nonliving matter. and over billions of years evolved into all the species we see today.

 

 


As I have said on here MANY times, I believe that animals, plants etc can mutate and so become a new species of that particular animal or plant - eg Elephants - Indian and African - but they cannot mutate into another entirely different animal. I believe that things can become bigger or smaller depending on environment. So, if that is evolution so be it.

 

I must admit, I have never met a Christian who believes that God created microbial life (only) and that evolved into all the life forms we have today. I admit that there are some who still believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, but I have never believed that. It seems totally silly to me that some say Dinosaurs died out at Noah's flood - which I have heard some say. I believe that Dinosaurs died out Millions of years ago.

 

I do NOT believe that LIFE can come from nonliving matter - there have been thousands of experiments to try to prove this and ALL HAVE FAILED.


Genesis 2:7King James Version (KJV)

 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

 

Life from nonliving matter?  Nah. Can't happen!


You are talking 'life from nonliving matter' WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION. tHE ABOVE is talking about life BEING GIVEN to a man, who we all know if mostly water and carbon and a bit of other stuff.

 

Think about a piece of metal - laying on the ground - there is NO WAY that piece of metal can form itself into a knife without INTERVENTION by a creator - ie a man/woman who knows how to form it into a knife. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.


You're using the argument from ignorance and God of the Gaps. We don't know how it happened. THerefore, *insert your preferred* God. 


Ignorance? Bob? Do you know something that thousands of scientists don't? Perhaps you can change base metal into gold too?


You kidding me right???? We CAN create Gold from other base metals with a particle accelerator. THousands of scientist DO know that.