made no mention of the big bang theory

Maybe what believers call God actually is the big bang

And here's an enigma. If the big bang was the start of time and space, how could there be a 'before' the big bang.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

And here's an enigma. If the big bang was the start of time and space, how could there be a 'before' the big bang.

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exactly that's the point I'm making that if you have to believe that it all started somewhere at some point why is it harder to believe that all this existed at the dawn of time and not a God ,

All that we know exists as apposed to one that some  believe created it

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@opmania wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

And here's an enigma. If the big bang was the start of time and space, how could there be a 'before' the big bang.

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exactly that's the point I'm making that if you have to believe that it all started somewhere at some point why is it harder to believe that all this existed at the dawn of time and not a God ,

All that we know exists as apposed to one that some  believe created it

 

 

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But does that mean that, as opposed to 'happening',  the big bang always existed (or never didn't exist.) ?

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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Q2. 'begs an awful lot of unanswereable questions' - please expand on this.

 

Well, obvious ones like:

 

1) Given the number of people who have ever lived and who will ever live, are there really so few 'righteous' that we will all fit  comfortably on one planet? I believe there are more people now than have lived in all the previous generations? In any case, if the world was all habitable we could probably fit 20 billion or so quite comfortably with each person having 5 acres? I don't know.

 

2) What age will we be? Supposing, for argument's sake that the 'end dy' arrives tomorrowIf I am found to be one of the righteous, will I remain 73 for all eternity?. No Will my new little great grandson remain four weeks old for all eternity? No

3) Will the population of Earth remain static for all eternity or will it increase? Who knows what God has planned - maybe interplandetary immigration? And if so how can it possibly go on increasing for all eternity?

 

4) If the population does increase, what guarantee is there that furture generations will also be 'righteous' and what will happen to them if they are not? Come to think of it what guarantee is there that those who inherit this new Earth as babes in arms (and presumably those below the age of reason at the second coming must be deemed 'righteous' by default) will continue in the path of righteousness as they grow older? That's covered - Revelations says that after Christ's 1,000 years reign the devil will be released for a short time to tempt those and then he will be cast into the lake of fire - eternal destruction.

 

5) How will we survive once the sun dies,

 

I guess someone with faith would simply say, to God all things are possible.' But that would sound to me like a bit of a cop-out.

 

See the answer in the above post re 'Moving the earth'.

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@opmania wrote:

even in recent years micro-organisms have evolved to resist penicillin whereas it has killed pretty much all bacteria for around 100 years

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I don't dispute that, but they certainly haven't evolved into something else have they?

no big bang just was always there

give them a million years and they may

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

made no mention of the big bang theory

 

Maybe what believers call God actually is the big bang

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Maybe God caused the BIG BANG and controlled it so that the otherwise resulting confusion became order?

If you went to church on Sunday and your priest told you that Jesus had returned to earth

no pictures no solid evidence just a statement of the fact

would you believe him ?