Re: Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

azureline** · ‎15-05-2015

I thought it addressed one of your concerns, Mr Grizz has just addressed 2 more.

*mrgrizz* · ‎15-05-2015

i would be more concerned about the cost involved with complying with Coles and Woolworths stardards and auditing than HALAL

bluecat*dancing · ‎15-05-2015

Unlike the OP, SBS does not have an anti-muslim agenda. Hopefully, the inquiry results will answer and relieve her of her concerns as well as educate others but I doubt it because there will always be those who would rather believe the shock jocks rather than the facts.

**************************

"There is nothing more; but I want nothing more." Christopher Hitchins

daydream**believer · ‎15-05-2015

just curious grizz, do you slaughter pigs at your work?

*mrgrizz* · ‎15-05-2015

@daydream**believer wrote:
just curious grizz, do you slaughter pigs at your work?

no

the_great_she_elephant · ‎15-05-2015

Not so odd, really, when you consider that the thread title only mentioned halal and point 9 in the OP stated: ." Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

Kosher is a part of Judaic Law specific to Jews, and if, as the OP is keen to point out, we are a predominantly Christian country, so do we want any aspect of Jewish law in Australia?

daydream**believer · ‎15-05-2015

@azureline** wrote:
I thought it addressed one of your concerns, Mr Grizz has just addressed 2 more.

Umm, no he hasnt

daydream**believer · ‎15-05-2015

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Not so odd, really, when you consider that the thread title only mentioned halal and point 9 in the OP stated: ." Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.
Kosher is a part of Judaic Law specific to Jews, and if, as the OP is keen to point out, we are a predominantly Christian country, so do we want any aspect of Jewish law in Australia?

the difference is that Kosher certification is not on near all the products in our supermarkets.

There are two Kosher certifiers in Australia who clearly state what they charge for certification

daydream**believer · ‎15-05-2015

Anyway, i'll leave you all to it.

I just popped in to spread the joy that i felt when the inquiry was announced.

Feel free to keep bumping the thread so that others may celebrate

Anonymous · ‎15-05-2015

@*mrgrizz* wrote:
my work kills 4000 animals everyday HALAL every single one is stunned first.
i will repeat once again ritual slaughter is where the animal is not stunned first. and is extremely rare and highly monitored.

we sign no non disclosure documents with any certifiers

that is really good but not good enough

because there are still exemptions and

there are abattoirs in australia that have been

granted permission for religious slaughter.

The Federal Government is reviewing ritual slaughter standards but is not pre-empting the findings.

Halil Haliloff owns a farm north of Adelaide which is one of nine abattoirs in South Australia that is allowed to kill without stunning.

The Turkish-born Muslim has been running the small abattoir for sheep and goats for about seven years and has around 50 animals at any given time.

He says most of his customers would not buy the meat if it had been stunned.

“I kill them for the religion, if not do for the religion then my customer [would] run away,” he said.

He says many of his customers actually watch him slaughter the animals to ensure it is halal.

“[They] want to buy fresh meat, because shops keep it in a cool room. [Here it is] from ice, it’s halal.”

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils is the accreditation body for halal food.

It accepts the stunning of animals but president Ikebal Patel says exemptions are needed to accommodate for religious freedoms.

i disagree.

http://muslimvillage.com/2011/06/20/11004/rspca-wants-to-ban-non-stunned-halal-kosher-slaughter/