Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

 

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

 

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?


2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.


3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA


4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?


5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?


6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.


7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?


8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.


9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

 

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

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You don't have an issue with Kosher methods of killing animals for food?

 

 

she does.  she stated so in post 5

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

You don't have an issue with Kosher methods of killing animals for food?

 

 

she does.  she stated so in post 5


Yeh but Julia, they dont actually read or address anything i write, lol

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Kosher describes what is ‘fit and proper’ for people of the Jewish faith to consume. Kosher food laws are based on interpretation of the Bible and the Torah, the Judaic scriptures, and set out a range of beverages and foods (including meat) that are acceptable to drink and eat. 

 

Halal describes what is lawful for Muslims to eat. Halal food laws are based on interpretation of the Quran, the Muslim scripture, and set out the range of beverages and foods (including meat) that are acceptable for Muslims to eat.

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what agenda does sbs have?

 

Senate inquiry into halal certification

 

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/05/15/senate-inquiry-halal-certification

 

Libs seek inquiry into halal certification

 

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/27/libs-seek-inquiry-halal-certification

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my work kills 4000 animals everyday HALAL every single one is stunned first.

i will repeat once again ritual slaughter is where the animal is not stunned first. and is extremely rare and highly monitored.

 

we sign no non disclosure documents with any certifiers

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Thats really great that you know what halal and kosher are azure, but, i also already know what they are.

 

But that doesnt address the concerns i have with halal certification.

 

 

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@daydream**believer wrote:

@*julia*2010 wrote:

You don't have an issue with Kosher methods of killing animals for food?

 

 

she does.  she stated so in post 5


Yeh but Julia, they dont actually read or address anything i write, lol


how odd that they only noticed one word  Woman LOL

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what was the edit in post 5?

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

my work kills 4000 animals everyday HALAL every single one is stunned first.

i will repeat once again ritual slaughter is where the animal is not stunned first. and is extremely rare and highly monitored.

 

we sign no non disclosure documents with any certifiers


So you are not one of the 15 that does kill with no stun. Good for you.

http://kb.rspca.org.au/What-is-Halal-slaughter-in-Australia_116.html

"There are a small number of abattoirs in Australia that have been granted permission from the relevant State or Territory food authority to conduct religious slaughter without prior stunning – for either Halal or Kosher (Jewish slaughter) purposes. These ‘approvals’ are effectively exemptions to standard Australian slaughter practice. The proportion of animals slaughtered under these exemptions is very small, but nevertheless that any animals are slaughtered without stunning is of concern to the RSPCA. "

 

There have been businesses who have told of having to sign non disclosure forms

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there is 2 types of slaughter

HALAL

RITUAL HALAL

 

you are confusing the 2

 

these 15 abattoirs of which you speak are most likely 1 man shows.

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