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@wayward216 wrote:
Actually Debra on closer inspection your link appears more about hotels that just serve Kosher food rather than the entire hotel being certified Halal such as what crescent do.

http://www.crescentrating.com/

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I don't know wayward here's another link on Kosher holidays

http://www.exploringtourism.com/kosher-tourism/

there are Halal holidays and Kosher holidays, It's all the same to me

no, even that one is still just about food Debra?
A fully certified halal hotel would have no alcohol or would have specific alcohol free areas or Muslim only areas, it would have prayer rooms, quran in the room, only play acceptable music, etc etc, along with Halal food. Not that I would defend religious certification of any hotel or accomodation as I think the entire concept is nonsense, but I certainly haven't seen any kosher certification that extends to anywhere near the level halal certification does when it comes to tourism.

it says in that last link that all the holiday accommodation is within walking distance to synagogues...

the religions have some differences , however there is both  Halal and kosher tourism, which is the main point isn't it??

I also found this economic report on kosher certification

http://business.inquirer.net/130919/exporters-urged-to-tap-global-kosher-market

Filipino food exporters are urged to tap the huge opportunities presented by the multibillion-dollar global kosher market, which is reportedly growing by 15 percent a year.

According to the Philippine Exporters Confederation Inc. (Philexport), exploring the kosher food market will allow local exporters to diversify their markets and boost their revenues.

Kosher refers to food that conform to the regulations of kashrut or Jewish dietary law.

Joel Weinberger, president of international kosher inspector PS Kosher Food Works Inc., was quoted by Philexport as saying that the “Philippines has a lot of room to grow and has a lot of opportunities.”

Philippine food products that were said to have great growth potential in the kosher market include coconut-based products, dried fruits, fruit jams and fishery products like tuna and some sardines.

Citing a report by Mintel consumer research, Weinberger said that sales of kosher food in the United States alone, which already comprise a third of the worldwide market, totaled $12.65 billion.

Apart from the United States, which has a large Jewish population, Weinberger said that Europe, particularly France and United Kingdom, Israel and Russia, were significant markets for kosher products.

To capture the lucrative market, Weinberger said exporters have to seek kosher certification, which costs an average of $3,000 a year.

 

which I also found interesting, similar to halal certification really

 

 

as i said earlier, I'm not particularly anti anyone, but I do see some similarities between these two religions

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@wayward216 wrote:
Actually Debra on closer inspection your link appears more about hotels that just serve Kosher food rather than the entire hotel being certified Halal such as what crescent do.

http://www.crescentrating.com/

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Crescent do not certify an "entire hotel". Sheesh - talk about your reading being skewed by personal bias.

It's a marketing webiste that helps people attract a niche audience. They don't "certify" anything. They simply provide a score rating for destinations that are halal friendly and provide private accreditation to hotels, tour operators etc.

A bit like the myriad of marketing agencies that exist to help hotels attract the gay market.

Or a bit like...the Michelin Guide but for Muslim tourists instead of cash happy diners..

*...rolls eyes...*

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@wayward216 wrote:

no, even that one is still just about food Debra?
A fully certified halal hotel would have no alcohol or would have specific alcohol free areas or Muslim only areas, it would have prayer rooms, quran in the room, only play acceptable music, etc etc, along with Halal food. Not that I would defend religious certification of any hotel or accomodation as I think the entire concept is nonsense, but I certainly haven't seen any kosher certification that extends to anywhere near the level halal certification does when it comes to tourism.

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Ridiculous assumptions.

Where on their website is there a hotel that has "religious CERTIFICATION"?

Give an example of a "fully certified hotel".

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@wayward216 wrote:

Kosher applies to Food, Halal certification applies to all things 'permissible', which is almost everything. So outside of food halal certification applies to real estate, finance, fashion, media, pharmaceuticals, communication etc etc etc.

Big difference between halal and Kosher.

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The big difference is that one is Jewish, the other Muslim.

Halal Cerification applies to food, just as Kosher certification applies to food.

That is the subject of the enquiry.

Hotels and resorts that claim Kosher or Halal certification are certified kitchens.

I see no problem with it.

You've got to wonder about a person who can take simple facts and then misread then, twist them and regurgutate them into in a mangled form so far from reality or common sense...

Hi everyone, the discussion is getting a little heated.  Please be sure to keep your communications civil.  Thanks!

I need a martini, sorry am I biased or were you describing yourself? I'm an Atheist, not sure about biased but feel free to prove you're not biased against Atheism or Sikhism beliefs? I suspect you can't.

Crescent do certify entire hotels, it is their highest level of certification.

Criteria:
1: Only Halal food on the entire premises (which excludes the sale of alcohol)
2: All of the following - Prayer facility, list of local mosques, knowledge of prayer times and directions, prayer mats or prayer tables, Qiblah marked in rooms (locater for Mecca)
3: Additional Ramadan specic requirements - transport to and from local Mosques, meals for Suhoor and Ifthar.
4: Does not offer any nightclubs or casinos, no adult television, seperate saunas, pool and gym fascilities  for men and women.

In order to be certified not only does the Hotel need to provide this, but they also need to pay annual certification and audit fees.

'rolls eyes'

No, this is separate to the inquiry. This was just about my comment that halal certification extends well beyond food which a few here didn't believe. We now know Halal Certification does extend beyond food and to a much lessor degree so does kosher.