So how does that work?

remember who is paying for it, well what about people who have worked and paid tax, now all of a sudden find themselves out of a job , and now find themselves  dependant on benifits are they not entitled to get  some of their tax back that they had paid when they worked?

Fair crack of the whip.

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@esayaf wrote:
It's that kind of attitude that fuels the prejudice. It's not your money any more once the government takes it off of you and it's not the government's money after they've given it away

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I was following your arguments up until now and agreed with quite a few things you said, but sorry you just lost me on this one.

I dont think there are many workers who would accept that they need to work extra hours for free to provide gambling money, drug money  or excessive alchohol for those who either cant or wont work. 

The Government has also made it very clear that this is not what welfare payments are designed to be used for. Tax payers, Governments and welfare recipients have all entered a social covenment. This covenant is to provide basic neccesities for those who cant provide for themselves. We can argue about the level of support that should be provided but not the purpose of that support.

The majoriy of welfare recipients use the money given to them for the purposes that it was provided. ( Lets face it, once most pay the rent, utilities and basic food, theres nothing left anyway. )

Your suggestion that it is a welfare recipients right to neglect their kids and gamble welfare payments away, or spend it on ice or dope ( its not taxpayers money or the Governments money after they give it to the welfare recipient ) is the exactly the reason the card idea has been suggested. It is exactly this attitude which is forcing the Government to consider the cards.

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@esayaf wrote:
It's that kind of attitude that fuels the prejudice. It's not your money any more once the government takes it off of you and it's not the government's money after they've given it away

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Your argument is that once the government gives taxpayers money to welfare rcipients, it is theirs to do with as they please. There are many welfare recipients who choose to spend welfare on gambling, drugs and excessive alcohol consumption, often at the expense of other family members ( often children. ). This is their right according to the above post.