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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Me, I,m just going to stay defending and providing for the family and to he!! with your modern world role changes.

 

But doesn't your spouse/partner also defend and provide for the family?

 

You also said: 

I think all humans are still hard wired to our more prehistoric, pre modern society instincts.

 

This means that men who are the physically stronger sex are hard wired to be protectors and hunters. Testosterone influences mens physical strength and his levels of aggression and willingness to fight to protect his family ( or yes She el, just to fight)

 

I would argue that the prehistoric male impulse to fight had far less to do with protection than control. One could point to the  animal kingdom qand say that the dominant male in any herd fights to protect his females, but it would not be true. What he is fighing for is the exclusive right to mate with them and pass on his genes. This may be a 'good thing' in evolutionary terms, but it is a bit redundant in modern society. As for dealing with spiders or snakes - or even other men. - families ,and society as a whole, are much better served by empowering women to deal with them themselves rather than expecting them to rely on their menfolk to do it for them. 

 

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I was so hoping that this discussion wasn't going to turn into a battle of the sexes.  Feminism resonates with you she-ele yes? I understand, you've lived through a massive transition.  You've seen and experienced things that us generation xers and the most modern "millenials" can olny read about in books...  But I feel as though all of these post modern ideals are like the pathway built with good intentions is rapidly leading us towards hell...  Methophorically speaking as a society.  

Women have been empowered now for decades.  Only 30% of school teachers (accross the board) are men:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/men-too-scared-to-teach-for-fear-of-being-falsely...

And look at the state of the education system.  Programs like SSP gets priority, while IT depts cant even provide up to date technology for classrooms.  The education is being replaced with social justice programmes.  Kids are being indoctrinated with sexual ideology rather than being taught how to think critically for themselves...  It's all offshoots of TWF imo.

Yet theres still this false dicotomy engrained in this TWF movement,  that the "patriarchy" is opressing womens rights etc etc.  It's complete bullocks imo.  It's more like TWF is oppressing, demonising and trying to turn men soft...