@donnashuggy wrote:I'm not sure we are on the same page, You are being simplistic in assuming that all buyers who get nasty about feedback timing do so on every occasion.
I am saying that these vengeful buyers become irrelevant to a seller who leaves feedback on payment.
I don't alter their mindset, myself and the buyer are just never on each other's radar.
This is not why I leave feedback on payment, it is simply a bonus of the practice, one of many.
No, we're not on the same page, because you're dead wrong about what I'm "assuming".
You did not initially say that vengeful buyers are irrelevant to sellers who leave FB on payment, you said that the timing of feedback is irrelevant to very good sellers. Saying that vengeful buyers become irrelevant to sellers who leave feedback on payment means that the timing of feedback is not irrelevant to sellers, thus contradicting your initial comment. Unless you meant to suggest that only very good sellers leave feedback on payment, and that it becomes irrelevant because then no one has to think about this as an issue.
Besides which, I'm not talking about nasty or vengeful buyers at all, or people who do something like leave bad feedback or low DSRs, or find something else to be unhappy about, because FB wasn't left on payment. I din't even mention those things, save for an earlier comment mentioning that the people who do do something adverse because they didn't get feedback on payment, or before they left it, wouldn't affect most sellers in the grand scheme of things (because they are relatively few and far between).
I am talking about a basic, overarching belief and expectation many buyers have over what should happen and when, and that feedback timing is a matter of courtesy for them. There are a lot of threads started here from buyers who feel so strongly about this that they're "sick of sellers" who don't leave feedback first, many of them have no other issues, no negs / neuts left etc, and they are otherwise happy eBayers, and a lot of other buyers, who don't feel strongly enough to create a thread, or even consider doing anything but notice when a seller doesn't leave them feedback first, chime in with how they feel about it. Which means there are a lot of people paying attention to feedback timing, whether the seller is any the wiser about how it's affecting the perception of the transaction or not, so I contested your statement that feedback is irrelevant for very good sellers, because of this (and because - if you did mean it that way - I would contest the notion that very good sellers leave FB first).
For full disclosure, 99% of the time I leave FB on payment, on some occasions the buyer has been problematic prior to payment, in which case I often choose to leave them no feedback because I can't say anything nice. And every so often it takles me a day or two for certain speacial buyers (regular customers), because I'm trying to think of something unique to say, and I'm not very good at doing that, particularly with the succinctness 80 characters requires. 
