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19-04-2020 03:41 PM - edited 19-04-2020 03:42 PM
@springyzone wrote:[...]
Countess, you're the cooking guru. (No guru, but enthusiastic, yes!)
Have you made a lot of sour dough and if so, what starter would you recommend?
I have made sourdough using seedless green grapes. The main trick is to stop other people from finding it in the refrigerator when you're not making loaves every week or so. I've had two lots mysteriously vanish and I darkly suspect that someone encountered the starter in the fridge, thought it was something "ughy", and threw it away. I now have a special container for it, and have labelled it exceptionally clearly.
Sourdough starter with green grapes
(Paul Hollywood's method)
Preparation time: overnight
Cooking time: no cooking required
Serves: Makes 1 quantity of starter
- 5-7 seedless organic green grapes
- 250g/9oz strong white flour
- 250ml/9fl oz tepid water
For feeding
- 100g/3½oz strong white flour
- 100ml/3½fl oz tepid water
- Slice the grapes and combine with the flour and the water.
- Tip the dough into an airtight container. Cover and leave to rise for three days at room temperature. (Make absolutely sure that the container IS airtight. Ideally use a Bormioli Rocco Fido container or a Kilner container.)
- After three days, discard half of the mixture and 'feed' the remainder with another 100g/3½oz of flour and 100ml/3fl oz of water. Stir well until the mixture is thoroughly combined.
- Leave for at least 24 hours and the starter should be ready to use. It should be like a bubbly jelly in texture. If it is not yet bubbling and active, feed it once more and leave it for another couple of days.
- If you are using the starter regularly, say every week, you need to discard half and re-feed it every couple of days. Also, feed the starter after you make each loaf of bread. The starter should be stored at room temperature (except on very hot days) and should be a like a thick batter.
- If you are only making bread once a month you can keep it in the fridge but return it to room temperature before using. Keeping it in the fridge will slow down the activity but not stop it. If the starter seems to be inactive, give it another feed. Remember it is a live mixture of yeast and bacteria and it needs to be fed.
I had originally planned to make my starter with an apple, but I remember going around in circles trying to find a Cox apple (which Paul Hollywood recommends) and not actually being able to source one at the time. I think that the Jazz apple variety would be a gorgeous apple to use as a starter, though. They are a little pricey ($5.90 for 1 kg at either Woolworths or Coles) but there is nothing to beat the sensation of eating a truly delicious apple... I think I've talked myself into buying a kilo of Jazz apples and making some more sourdough starter while munching on the rest of the apples!
Sourdough Starter (using an organic apple)
Paul Hollywood says: It is important to have an organic apple, free of chemicals, for this, or the starter may not ferment. I like to use a Cox, but any organic apple will do.
- 1kg strong white bread flour
- 1 organic apple, grated, with skin, avoiding the core
- 360ml tepid water
- Stage 1. Mix 500g of the flour with the apple and water. Tip this into an airtight container and mark the level on the outside of the container (so you can see whether the mix has risen). Cover and leave to ferment for 3 days.
- Stage 2. After 3 days the mix should start to smell quite sweet, a bit like cider. It will be a little darker in colour and will have started to grow; it may also have some bubbles. Check the level against the mark you made on the outside to see how much it has grown. Discard half the mix and add another 250g bread flour and 170ml water – this is called ‘feeding’. Mix thoroughly in the bowl. Tip back into the container and leave for a further 2 days.
- Stage 3. There should now be plenty of activity in the dough, indicated by lots of small bubbles. If there is nothing happening, look at the side of the container – you’ll be able to see whether the dough has risen and fallen by the smearing on the side. If it has risen and fallen, then it is active. If your starter is active but has sunk down in the tub and a layer of liquid has formed on top, then it is actually over-active. Stir in some more flour to return it to a thick consistency and leave for a day. It should regain the thick, bubbly texture you want. If there is no sign of rising on the container, and no bubbles, leave the dough for a couple more days.
- Once your starter is active, discard half of it, as before, and mix in another 250g bread flour and enough water to return it to the consistency of a very wet, sloppy dough. This time leave it for 24 hours. If the starter begins to bubble within this time, then it is ready to use. Ideally, when you come to use it, you want to starter to be thick and bubbly. If you shake it, it should wobble like a jelly, without dropping down. When you put a spoon through it, it should be like a thick batter. If your starter is not bubbling, feed it again, following stage two, and leave it for a further 2 days.
- If you are using your starter often, you can leave it at room temperature, feeding it at least every 3 days and whenever you take some to make bread. Simply stir in some strong white bread flour and enough water to return it to the consistency of a very wet dough, bearing in mind that you will need 500g starter for each recipe. Then leave it, covered, until it achieves that thick, bubbly, jelly-like stage. If you are making sourdough less often – say, once a month – then keep the starter, covered, in the fridge. This will slow down the activity and preserve it almost indefinitely, but you must let it come back to room temperature before use. If it seems to be inactive, give it a feed of fresh flour – the bacteria within it are living so they need feeding.
You probably already know about the (very lengthy) proving time...? The first proving takes about 5 hours, and the second proving at least another 5 hours (up to 8 hours).
It's definitely worth it, though.
I have a bread machine to do the actual kneading, and then I remove it from that tin to put into my large red Emile Henry dish and cover that with a wet towel. Every two hours or so, I dampen the towel again to prevent it from drying out.
Instead of using the damp towel method, it might be worth trying out putting a ramekin of hot water into a cold oven into which you place the dough to rise. (Less washing up of doughy towels!) Another alternative is to use beeswax cloth. (And if cling film doesn't fill you with horror, you can always use GladWrap. It does fill me with horror, so I avoid it.)
For the second proving, I put the dough into a proving basket that is the same size and shape as the cloche or loaf baker that I plan to use for the bread. Again, I tend to use a wet towel to cover it.