Second chance offer is simple … it is used when the seller shills the bidding and forces up your bids … but when you don’t outbid them and the seller is left with the winning bid … they cancel their own bid and then offer you the “second chance” ... it is a great system

Or they have multiple items, or a non-paying buyer (of which there are apparently many) decides not to pay.

 

And the timeframe would certainly indicate if it's the second.

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@iamanark wrote:
Second chance offer is simple … it is used when the seller shills the bidding and forces up your bids … but when you don’t outbid them and the seller is left with the winning bid … they cancel their own bid and then offer you the “second chance” ... it is a great system

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Speak for yourself - that is a real generalisation of something you don't seem to fully understand.

 

The usual reason second chance is offered is if a BUYER wants out of the deal and the seller accepts his request to cancel, then the seller can offer to the next bidder.

 

Shilling does go on, for sure, but I bet the OP just loves your inferrence that this is what he has done. It simply didn't reach reserve, what is so hard to understand about that?

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@iamanark wrote:
Second chance offer is simple … it is used when the seller shills the bidding and forces up your bids … but when you don’t outbid them and the seller is left with the winning bid … they cancel their own bid and then offer you the “second chance” ... it is a great system

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Second chance offers are a legitimate tool, used by sellers who more than one identical item, or for sellers who have a difficult buyer who refuses to pay. ( often with no contact. ) While your little description is rather amusing, it does highlight why there is distrust of the system by buyers. This results in very poor uptake ( around 25% in my experience ) of legitimate offers from genuine sellers.

Second chance offer is a sham … if it was genuine, then not only would the “winning bidder’s” last bid be cancelled, but all the “winner bidder’s” bids be cancelled (if they are not going to finalise the auction, then they were never a genuine bidder in the first place)… which means that if there was shill bidding, all their bids would be cancelled and then, and only then, would the second chance offer be genuine …

So you're saying that an eBay policy means a seller is shilling?

 

Right.

 

Just once I'd like to see you post something positive

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@iamanark wrote:
Second chance offer is a sham … if it was genuine, then not only would the “winning bidder’s” last bid be cancelled, but all the “winner bidder’s” bids be cancelled (if they are not going to finalise the auction, then they were never a genuine bidder in the first place)… which means that if there was shill bidding, all their bids would be cancelled and then, and only then, would the second chance offer be genuine …

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RUBBISH

 

How can eBay possibly know a winning bidder has withdrawn from the sale?? The only person that is aware of that is the seller when the bidder contacts them with the usual SOB story.

eBay policy .............................................. LOL .

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Since when has ebay policy had anything to do with honesty ?