thanks kopes!

does he say if he's heard of any other problems with the Black Widow? I really did like that, but well....

definitely no software for the stalker.

I picked up some virus in the Mighty Viper that stripped everything! Including my Windows8 app page but all inside too. I ended up taking it to my computer guy, and it took him a week to find what it was! None of his virus doobies could find it (he sets up and maintains computers for businesses etc - he guided me in how to build the Viper) Malwarebytes picked up nothing - He had to get a u beaut virus zapper thingy (that's as techy as I get LOL) and then spent two days with microsoft about it??

I've had to reinstall everything.

he said he had never seen anything like it! of course, if it's unusual, I will find it LOL

so anyway, def no software for the stalker. I just plugged it in and off she went.