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on 04-08-2020 07:47 PM
Don/t be a spoilsport stawks...... it's much more fun asking a dumb question and letting someone else do the googling for ya. ![]()
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on 04-08-2020 07:48 PM
Fair enough
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on 04-08-2020 07:50 PM
A parcel was delivered by courier yesterday . It was dispatched from Melbourne - i had the pressure pack of spray disinfectant ready...for dosing the outside of the unopened parcel ( not the courier )
I know - not necessary , but it did make me feel better
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on 04-08-2020 10:12 PM
why in one of the weathiest countries in the world are our nurses short of even protective masks etc ......and how did 700+ health care workers get infected ?
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on 04-08-2020 10:41 PM
Is easy I suppose to discuss contentious issues relating to public safety and ps failings here and maybe loose some prospective
so here is some contrast to help maintain reasonableness* of inquiring minds ( *if that is a word )
Titled "A salute to the intrepid UK disabled "
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04-08-2020 10:45 PM - edited 04-08-2020 10:50 PM
@domino-710 wrote:And - here we go - SA.
Let's see how Steve handles it.
There's no doubt that containing the virus in Victoria was always going to be much harder than in South Australia, regardless of who was in charge.
Reasons include, Melbourne airport being an international gateway to Australia, much higher migrant populations in Victoria who may not always be proficient in speaking and reading English ( and may not trust government officials and health advice to the same extent as those born here. ) Melbourne ports are also a major freight gateway and the major transport and manufacturing distribution centres have people coming and going from all areas in the country with inherent poor monitoring of driver health status.
That said though, at this stage, the South Australian government appears to have handled virus control much more efficiently than the Andrews government.
Examples include going earlier than other states on closing borders, much higher testing rates per head of population early in the pandemic, much more effort and efficiency put into contact tracing and more targeted and controlled isolation measures. Monitoring duties have also only been handled by the police or the ADF, rather than private contractors..
One of my young nieces returned to SA from Victoria just over two weeks ago. She was totally confined, alone to the house she was isolating in for the whole two weeks. And she had tested negative to COVID. She was also checked on numerous occasions with police visiting her every couple of days.
This is in stark contrast to Victorians who had TESTED POSITIVE to the virus and where still ( until a day or two ago ) allowed to wander the streets whenever they felt like it for " exercise ". Many positive cases had no communication from contact tracers and 25% of positive cases where not home when visited by police. That simply wouldn't have happened in S.A.
I,ve been very careful not to take a dig at any Victorians for the unfortunate position they find themselves in. It really is a tragic set of circumstances not of the making of most responsible Victorians. Likewise, all governments are just making it up as they go along and trying to do their very best in what must feel a terrible responsibility.
But there does need to be some real questioning and honesty about how the Victorian leadership have managed the crisis if everyone is going to learn and handle things better in future. A flare up in cases could occur anywhere, any time. We never know when the next positive case could be us or our loved ones. Stay safe everyone.
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on 04-08-2020 10:50 PM
@chameleon54 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:And - here we go - SA.
Let's see how Steve handles it.
There's no doubt that containing the virus in Victoria was always going to be much harder than in South Australia, regardless of who was in charge.
Reasons include, Melbourne airport being an international gateway to Australia, much higher migrant populations in Victoria who may not always be proficient in speaking and reading English ( and may not trust government officials and health advice to the same extent as those born here. ) Melbourne ports are also a major freight gateway and the major transport and manufacturing distribution centres have people coming and going from all areas in the country with inherent poor monitoring of driver health status.
That said though, at this stage, the South Australian government appears to have handled virus control much more efficiently than the Andrews government.
Examples include going earlier than other states on closing borders, much higher testing rates per head of population early in the pandemic, much more effort and efficiency put into contact tracing and more targeted and controlled isolation measures.
One of my young nieces returned to SA from Victoria just over two weeks ago. She was totally confined, alone to the house she was isolating in for the whole two weeks. And she had tested negative to COVID. She was also checked on numerous occasions with police visiting her every couple of days.
This is in stark contrast to Victorians who had TESTED POSITIVE to the virus and where still ( until a day or two ago ) allowed to wander the streets whenever they felt like it for " exercise ". Many positive cases had no communication from contact tracers and 25% of positive cases where not home when visited by police. That simply wouldn't have happened in S.A.
I,ve been very careful not to take a dig at any Victorians for the unfortunate position they find themselves in. It really is a tragic set of circumstances not of the making of most responsible Victorians. Likewise, all governments are just making it up as they go along and trying to do their very best in what must feel a terrible responsibility.
But there does need to be some real questioning and honesty about how the Victorian leadership have managed the crisis if everyone is going to learn and handle things better in future. A flare up in cases could occur anywhere, any time. We never know when the next positive case could be us or our loved ones. Stay safe everyone.
Notice no advisory TV commercials relating to latest coronavirus restrictions, supports & benefits , even none on, to my recollection, SBS ? Strange when one thinks about that
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04-08-2020 10:56 PM - edited 04-08-2020 10:57 PM
@rogevibe wrote:
@chameleon54 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
Notice no advisory TV commercials relating to latest coronavirus restrictions, supports & benefits , even none on, to my recollection, SBS ? Strange when one thinks about that
I saw a good advert tonight on one of the commercial TV channels advising about the time frames the various federal government payments where scheduled to last. ( jobseeker / jobkeeper ) It was simple, factual and most importantly, non political. It gave clear guidance that should allow people to make some plans.
It is the first one I have seen though.
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on 04-08-2020 11:27 PM
@rogevibe wrote:Is easy I suppose to discuss contentious issues relating to public safety and ps failings here and maybe loose some prospective
so here is some contrast to help maintain reasonableness* of inquiring minds ( *if that is a word )
Titled "A salute to the intrepid UK disabled "
It is a word.
So is 'prospective', but in this case 'perspective' is the one to use.
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on 05-08-2020 04:57 AM
Coronavirus update: WHO team in China had 'extensive discussions' with scientists in Wuhan, Philippines records daily case high