Davewil, sometimes your pithy comments get me right in the funny bone. Ow.

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@padreousmaximus wrote:

 

I am well rested, ready to tackle the rest of your post (and I refilled my red stylus too!).

 

4) Listed items in purchase history are automatically archived, hiding purchases once

a) either a delivery threshold set by the seller has gone over ETA

b) a certain time period has come to pass (usually 4 weeks from my experience)
STOP IT.
Leave ALL items in their respective "purchase history" lists until the user decides to hide or delete the sale info.

 

From my experience, items normally say in purchase list for 60 days before wing archived.

Often, Im required to fish back in time just to find an item because a product fails under warranty, and other times, Im forced to log into Paypal and search a purchase there just to find the seller and address an issue.

 

If you want an enforceable warranty on pricey branded products then stop buying on eBay and buy from a physical shop from authorised sellers only.

For cheap Chinese junk from overseas then there is no warranty.  For cheap Chinese junk bought from Australia there is no warranty.

The other thing about buying overseas items on eBay is that if it is an electrical item and it is plugged in and your house burns down then your building and contents insurance is probably voided.  This includes phone chargers.

I understand eBay is trying to look after sellers, but you can do that WITHOUT compromising the people spending their money here.

5) To motivate appropriate business conduct, goods NOT delivered on the sellers OWN delivery time info, incur an  automatic refund. 

Sellers do not set delivery estimated delivery timeframe, eBay does.  There are many examples on these boards of how unreliable these delivery estimates are.  You can not expect a seller do anything other than get the item shipped within their stated shipping timeframe.  Once it is out of their hands the delivery timeframe is out of their control.

This can be automated a day AFTER the sellers own deadline and if goods are not delivered in time, then a refund happens BUT this auto refund can ONLY happen if the buyer states that the goods arent received and only AFTER they have left feedback.

This way, accurate tabs are kept on dodgy sellers, and once refund is received, put that down along the pick a box sections where they ask about delivery time, and seller communication in the feedback section.

 

I have highlighted some of your post (in blue) to highlight a fatal flaw in your arguement.  Under your suggestion, a buyer has to leave feedback before they can get an auto refund, BUT, when they leave feedback they need to tick a box indicating that they have received a refund.  Doesn’t make any sense, goes around in circles.

Further, no more than 8 weeks should be listable as a delivery period, else the item itself SHOULD NOT BE LISTABLE FOR SALE.

IF AN ITEM HAS AN 8 WEEK DELIVERY ESTIMATE THEN DO NOT BUY IT!  Geeze, it’s not rocket science!  Take responsibility for your own buying behaviours.

This ensures that goods are delivered on time, sellers dont balk communications and try to dodge time until the feedback deadline cuts off the buyer (as is the current system) and ensures that the buyer is NOT disadvantaged under ANY circumstance.

Rubbish (enough said).

A refund should be provided, automatically, when the seller fails in their sale and delivery. Already available through several remedies, including MBG, PayPal buyer protection and (in some cases) credit card provider refunds.
Like ANY business operating in Australia, business operating on eBay WITHIN Australia should be treated as such.

eBay sellers MUST be held to account.
eBay needs to be held to account as they provide the platform for these scammers.
Enough is enough..

Aome buyers are their own worse enemy.  They are reckless in their buying, they don’t follow remedies that are in place for refunds AND it is never their fault hey don’t get a refund, it is always eBay’s fault.  You can’t help those who do not help themself.


There has been so many attempts at scams, and actual sellers STILL SCAMMING its not even funny.  Two words . . . “Buyer Beware”.  If you are being scammed, conned or ripped off multiple times then take responsibility for your buying behaviour.  Buy cheap stuff from China then get cheap protections.
Its bad enough eBay & Paypal fees are so high, but its gotten to the point where buyers are at such a disadvantage if anything goes wrong, that its nigh on impossible to get any amicable remedy.

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Key takeouts are:

- don’t rely on worthless warranty statements in listings

- don’t expect items to be delivered within fanciful eBay delivery estimates 

- buyers need to take responsibility for their buying choices

- just because you believe something to be true doesn’t make it true (GST on 2nd hand items is not illegal)

- buyers need to be familiar with eBay policy and the way eBay operate their site

- posters should take a rest when replying to long, ranting, nonsensical posts from members who think they are pretty switched on regarding eBay but are really just fumbling around in the dark

Just two points which I don't think have been raised ... apologies if I missed them.

Not sure why you are complaining about eBay and PayPal fees as they are paid by the seller, no?

Also, I applaud your suggestion about automatic refunds but feel it should go further and apply to everything including tradespeople.  Then I could have my home repaired and renovated for free as no one ever turns up on time.  Seriously, it is a ridiculous suggestion to believe buyers are entitled to automatic refunds for late delivery.

Ebay is completely buyer oriented so if you are experiencing so many problems clearly you have failed to familiarise yourself with its policies.

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