@not_for_sale wrote:

@domino-710 wrote:

Good grief - how did it manage to get this bad.

 

We were all doing so well - then poof.


Rogespeed did caution us months ago that things could get worse in winter. Maybe he/she was right all along?


No hocus-pocus , just observing what had been happened in the northern hemisphere and assuming similar dynamics as flu or common cold -

 

but am wrong about  summer time in the north as coronavirus is ravaging southern US states during their summer time - when people are or should be more healthy and being outdoors more often and when flu is not a factor , , however these are the humid summer climatic regions which implies that the virus  thrives also in summer once a certain critical mass of infections is realised and so maybe in particularly humid conditions -

Sort of makes sense as in cold winters in harsh regions many people cooped up in small rooms with heater on high tends to be highly humid air - so sultry conditions , heat + humid air + gregarious social environment is to be wary of, summer or winter 

 

This is just a folk logic discussion without any claims of scientific merit or validation. 

 

The talking ground hog ( male) 

 

 


@rogevibe wrote:

 

Portland town (AUSTRALIA) should be preparing unbreakable quarantine measures - there is a segment of society who out of principle according to their value system do not hardly consider this pandemic as a factor for mitigating and so will break quarantine or isolation mitigation if such actions do not attract lawful penalty - so enhanced positive containment measures are needed , which is off-the-shelf technology

 

The woman and the daughter are in the Warnambool hospital and everyone else is in quarantine so it's wayyy to late for that rhetoric so at least keep up with what's happening.

 

It's a country town so people will do the right thing as they are concerned for others in their community.

 

There is still hope but the pandemic seems to be spreading along the southen VIC coast towards the persistantly effective SA border

No it's not and if you looked at a Covid map you would see the distances between the towns and the big empty

 

space of no cases between Colac and Portland and the SA border is locked.

It should've been quite simple that if you are in Melbourne during the lockdown period then you are not allowed

 

to travel anywhere which would've stopped the spread outside of Vic.good.gif

 

If they had followed that then there would be no other cases anywhere else.good.gif


 


@rogevibe wrote:

@not_for_sale wrote:

@domino-710 wrote:

Good grief - how did it manage to get this bad.

 

We were all doing so well - then poof.


Rogespeed did caution us months ago that things could get worse in winter. Maybe he/she was right all along?


No hocus-pocus , just observing what had been happened in the northern hemisphere and assuming similar dynamics as flu or common cold -

 

but am wrong about  summer time in the north as coronavirus is ravaging southern US states during their summer time - when people are or should be more healthy and being outdoors more often and when flu is not a factor , , however these are the humid summer climatic regions which implies that the virus  thrives also in summer once a certain critical mass of infections is realised and so maybe in particularly humid conditions -

Sort of makes sense as in cold winters in harsh regions many people cooped up in small rooms with heater on high tends to be highly humid air - so sultry conditions , heat + humid air + gregarious social environment is to be wary of, summer or winter 

 

This is just a folk logic discussion without any claims of scientific merit or validation. 

 

The talking ground hog ( male) 

 

 


The suspected source of the Victorian crisis conformed to the conditions  : 

Critical mass of infected people, ( plague prone people returning from overseas) 

confined living environment ( small living area accommodation, warm and humid) 

and gregarious social environment ( thanks to supervision ! )

 

 


@lyhargr_0 wrote:

@imastawka wrote:

Tis a bit all over the place atm.   Was chatting with my neighbour today re wearing/not wearing a mask out at her farm, some of the rules re this are just plain dumb.

 

 

I'm thinking a bit of common sense works in that predicament.

 

Wear the mask when travelling in between.   Not needed if you are on your own property.


Nothing to do with common sense, The law states, that, she doesnt have to wear one on her farm but if she is out there  with her nephew, they both do , cause he doesnt live with her


That is understandable. A lot of farms such as dairies and horticultural properties have large numbers of employees, often working in close quarters with many such as fruit pickers, being from non English speaking backgrounds ( high risk group ) and sometimes living in dormitory style accommodation.

 

The Sheep shearing season is just cranking up and looking decidedly dicey. Around 10% of Australia's sheep are shorn by Kiwis who are FIFO workers. That's not going to happen this year. Victorian shearers can work in S.A. but must have a covid test every 7 days. Social distancing and masks in shearing sheds will be a bit awkward. Shearing has been scientifically tested and proven as the most physically demanding regular employment option and is harder work than most intense gym workouts. I wouldn't like to try to keep a mask on while shearing for 8 hours per day, especially when the sheep are regularly kicking you in the face..


@rogevibe wrote:


We do not allow 1/4 of our prison population to walk out for the day into suburbia or the nearest town - yet we allow 1/4 of certified infected potential granny killers to break quarantine

 

How about you stop this garbage of blaming others and actually take notice of what's said as NOWHERE has it ever being said that they are allowed out as they are supposed to be in quarentine and they have broken quarentine so they are at fault and no has allowed them out.stubborn_smiley_by_mirz123-d4bt0te_zps12f1a5a3.gif


 


@lyhargr_0 wrote:

@imastawka wrote:

Tis a bit all over the place atm.   Was chatting with my neighbour today re wearing/not wearing a mask out at her farm, some of the rules re this are just plain dumb.

 

 

I'm thinking a bit of common sense works in that predicament.

 

   Not needed if you are on your own property.


Nothing to do with common sense, The law states, that, she doesnt have to wear one on her farm but if she is out there  with her nephew, they both do , cause he doesnt live with her


That bit of info was sadly lacking in your previous post.

 

Otherwise my answer would have been different.


@domino-710 wrote:

Good grief - how did it manage to get this bad.

 

We were all doing so well - then poof.


One idiotic security guard didn't do the job he was paid to do and decided to "fraternise" with the very people he

 

was told to be careful off and avoid contact with them.

 

He then took his infected body and infected others including fellow guards and they all then spread it at home and

 

any places they visited.

 

In my opinion he should've been charged as what he did could be seen as a deliberate act and he should be

 

held responsible for evey person that dies in the second wave of this pandemic.stubborn_smiley_by_mirz123-d4bt0te_zps12f1a5a3.gif


@go-tazz wrote:

@rogevibe wrote:


We do not allow 1/4 of our prison population to walk out for the day into suburbia or the nearest town - yet we allow 1/4 of certified infected potential granny killers to break quarantine

 

How about you stop this garbage of blaming others and actually take notice of what's said as NOWHERE has it ever being said that they are allowed out as they are supposed to be in quarentine and they have broken quarentine so they are at fault and no has allowed them out.stubborn_smiley_by_mirz123-d4bt0te_zps12f1a5a3.gif


 


why not just forsake quarantine altogether and satisfy your zero accountability agenda 


@go-tazz wrote:

@domino-710 wrote:

Good grief - how did it manage to get this bad.

 

We were all doing so well - then poof.


One idiotic security guard didn't do the job he was paid to do and decided to "fraternise" with the very people he

 

was told to be careful off and avoid contact with them.

 

He then took his infected body and infected others including fellow guards and they all then spread it at home and

 

any places they visited.

 

In my opinion he should've been charged as what he did could be seen as a deliberate act and he should be

 

held responsible for evey person that dies in the second wave of this pandemic.stubborn_smiley_by_mirz123-d4bt0te_zps12f1a5a3.gif


Two more positive cases in Portland today, getting a tad serious there now


@rogevibe wrote:

 


@domino-710 wrote:

Good grief - how did it manage to get this bad.

 

We were all doing so well - then poof.


Rogespeed did caution us months ago that things could get worse in winter. Maybe he/she was right all along?


No hocus-pocus , just observing what had been happened in the northern hemisphere and assuming similar dynamics as flu or common cold -

 

but am wrong about  summer time in the north as coronavirus is ravaging southern US states during their summer time - when people are or should be more healthy and being outdoors more often and when flu is not a factor , , however these are the humid summer climatic regions which implies that the virus  thrives also in summer once a certain critical mass of infections is realised and so maybe in particularly humid conditions -

Sort of makes sense as in cold winters in harsh regions many people cooped up in small rooms with heater on high tends to be highly humid air - so sultry conditions , heat + humid air + gregarious social environment is to be wary of, summer or winter 

 

This is just a folk logic discussion without any claims of scientific merit or validation. 

 

The talking ground hog ( male) 

 

 


The suspected source of the Victorian crisis conformed to the conditions  : 

Critical mass of infected people, ( plague prone people returning from overseas) 

confined living environment ( small living area accommodation, warm and humid) 

and gregarious social environment ( thanks to supervision ! )

 


Wrong as it all started with ONE security that couldn't do the job he was paid to do and if he had done the job correctly there would not have been an outbreak as it was being "controlled".Angry head bang.gif