Melbourne Storm fight suspension Billy Slater

Melbourne Storm chief vows to fight suspension and give Billy Slater his grand final swansong

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-23/storm-boss-fight-suspension-billy-slater-grand-final/10295652

 

now i dont have any interest in rugby, however i do have an interest when clubs start using lawyers and courts to overturn penalties for indescretions on the field of play.

i'm pretty sure when the Storm joined the competition they agreed to obey by the rules of the game.

ALL OF THE RULES!

 

we are seeing time and again clubs and individuals saying 'screw the rules, you must decide in our favour or we will sue!'

 

would this even be a story had mr slater done his shoulder charge in round 1 and got the same penalty?

my guess is NO.

 

a transgression of the rules is the same in round 1 as the last game prior to the grand final.

the penalty should also be the same and be accepted by all.

 

similar to the AFL, fans of the game are losing faith that its 1 rule for all.

 

in the SANFL today we have a team that blatantly cheated who are still playing in the grand final!

no one is arguing they had an advantage by having and extra player on the ground for a period of time, a transgression of a basic rule!

but do we do the right thing and disqualify them from the grand final?

no, we dont.

thats just not cricket in my opinion.

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Melbourne Storm fight suspension Billy Slater

The roosters had one of their best players on the bench last night

 

for a suspect tackle - he will return in time to play in the GF - they

 

look like losing Cooper Cronk for the GF due to a late tackle and

 

a wrecked shoulder - I agree Billy Slater is guilty of a shoulder

 

charge - a rule is a rule no black and white he used his shoulder 

 

to impede the run of play - I say bad luck Billy have a happy 

 

retirement you have been a mighty player but no sour grapes

 

take your penalty with dignity. 

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I understand your point of view David, but the issue is a little more complex.

 

Slater has been charged and is entitled to representation when he defends himself,

just as you and I would be. The club's lawyers will present a defence and a number

of issues will be taken into consideration. For example, whether the shoulder charge

was with intent, reckless and without consideration of the other player's safety. Slater

will also be provided the opportunity to state the alternatives he had at the time, while

charging at top speed to try and prevent a try. He is also entitled to protect himself from

possible injury.

 

Thank goodness the judiciary is sensible and will weigh up the evidence before ruling

on the charge. It would be a pretty sad world if our sports persons were not entitled

to reasonable justice and just had to cop the judgements of ruling bodies without

the opportunity to defend themselves.

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How can you defend what was clearly the use of his shoulder 

 

to impede the player from scoring a try - he didn't attempt to

 

tackle him - he used his shoulder.

 

 

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@freddie*rooster wrote:

How can you defend what was clearly the use of his shoulder 

 

to impede the player from scoring a try - he didn't attempt to

 

tackle him - he used his shoulder.

 

 


Well that's what was clear to you. But Slater will be provided the 

opportunity to defend his action and that is his right, irrespective

of opinions.

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Not much he can say in his defence when it was clearly

 

evident he used a shoulder charge to defend the line -

 

sure he has the right of defence -  it will be interesting

 

to see what he comes up with - and I hope the judgement

 

won't be lenient based on it being his last game due to his

 

impending retirement. 

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I completely agree with you about the final judgement. I am 

completely split on this issue.

 

On the one hand I don't know enough about the hearing process

and the factors that will be taken into consideration. But I do hope the

process is fair.

 

On the other hand I am a big Slater fan and think it would be sad if he

were to end his career with a suspension. But more importantly I would 

be upset if he were given special treatment because of who he is. I am

placing my faith in the system to deliver a fair and correct outcome.

 

Whatever happens, some people will cry foul which is understandable.

This is one occasion though where I, within myself, will try and accept

the umpire's decision, no matter what.

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@not_for_sale2024 wrote:

 

I understand your point of view David, but the issue is a little more complex.

 

Slater has been charged and is entitled to representation when he defends himself,

just as you and I would be. The club's lawyers will present a defence and a number

of issues will be taken into consideration. For example, whether the shoulder charge

was with intent, reckless and without consideration of the other player's safety. Slater

will also be provided the opportunity to state the alternatives he had at the time, while

charging at top speed to try and prevent a try. He is also entitled to protect himself from

possible injury.

 

Thank goodness the judiciary is sensible and will weigh up the evidence before ruling

on the charge. It would be a pretty sad world if our sports persons were not entitled

to reasonable justice and just had to cop the judgements of ruling bodies without

the opportunity to defend themselves.


They do get to defend themselves, every code has its disiplinary board who hears cases of 'aledged' offences.

umpires are called to give evidence, players are called to give evidence and players have 'lawyers'

 

what i'm complaining about is how often when the player is found guilty and given a penalty their club decides it wont accept that penalty and brings in 'the big guns' even to the point of taking matters to a real court!

 

my view is your part of a sport, you play under that sports rules and obey the decisions of the disiplinary board.

 

if you have a problem with punishments dished out you take it to 'board level'

 

but too often its bugga the rules, bugga the game, change the penalty because our player is a nice guy, has never dont it before and is really sorry, omg you want him to miss a grand final!

NO, just want him to play fair and when he doesnt take the penalty without complaining.

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@not_for_sale2024 wrote:

 

I completely agree with you about the final judgement. I am 

completely split on this issue.

 

On the one hand I don't know enough about the hearing process

and the factors that will be taken into consideration. But I do hope the

process is fair.

 

On the other hand I am a big Slater fan and think it would be sad if he

were to end his career with a suspension. But more importantly I would 

be upset if he were given special treatment because of who he is. I am

placing my faith in the system to deliver a fair and correct outcome.

 

Whatever happens, some people will cry foul which is understandable.

This is one occasion though where I, within myself, will try and accept

the umpire's decision, no matter what.


as i said, it should make no difference when a player does something wrong, round 1 or the last game prior to the GF, same penalty.

not, its billy slater give him a break.

no he'll miss the GF give him a break

no its his last game give him a break.

 

i know nothing about billy slater, i just know he did something against the rules and if found guilty (and its pretty hard to argue video evidence) should be penalised exactly the same as any other player in any other game during the season.

 

if that means missing a GF well thats tough but thats the rules.

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