on 08-08-2015 01:54 AM
"A Bangladeshi blogger known for his atheist views has been hacked to death by a gang armed with machetes in the capital Dhaka, police say.
Niloy Neel was attacked at his home in the city's Goran area.
He is the fourth secularist blogger to have been killed this year by suspected Islamist militants in Bangladesh. . .
"He was the voice against fundamentalism and extremism and was even a voice for minority rights - especially women's rights and the rights of indigenous people," he said.
BBC World Service South Asia editor Charles Haviland says that, like previous victims, Mr Neel was not only secular but atheist and, like two of the others, he was from a Hindu, not a Muslim, background."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33819032
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It's a strange religion is islam.
Its claim is to be a religion of peace and in the Koran it is written that there shall be no compulsion in religion.
see; http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-262-3441.htm
and yet, we see things like this happening with revolting regularity.
The Sunni hate the Shia and the Shia hate the Sunni and they often engage in armed assault against each other. and both groups unite in their hatred of the non-Muslim "infidel".
People say "But, oh, they aren't real Muslims and this isn't the real Islam"
(a charge often levelled against people belonging to the group called Islamic State.)
So, can someone please explain to me what the "real islam" is and how it is peaceful at heart?
What is the true nature of the peace of Islam?
I know I'm asking an impossible question here because how can any non-Muslim claim to know what the real Islam is when even real Muslims disagree?
Is it a bit of an arrogance for any non-Muslim to say "but they are not following the true Islam" ? (how would non-Muslims know, anyway?)
It's as if we want Islam to be something which it seems not to be and it's as if we claim to know what it should be.
I'm sure we would all just love the religion of peace to be truly peacefull, but what is meant by this "peace" they speak of?
What is it and how is to be achieved?
on 08-08-2015 08:36 AM
I suppose it is just like extremist groups of Christians that kill doctors that do abortion's or Christian's who kill other Christian's or jews that kill another person just because of their religion.
on 08-08-2015 02:38 PM
on 08-08-2015 03:19 PM
08-08-2015 05:40 PM - edited 08-08-2015 05:42 PM
So, can someone please explain to me what the "real islam" is and how it is peaceful at heart?
Sure, it's not.
What is the true nature of the peace of Islam?
Peace of islam? That's an oxymoron.
I know I'm asking an impossible question here because how can any non-Muslim claim to know what the real Islam is when even real Muslims disagree?
All the death and destruction they bring to non believers.
Is it a bit of an arrogance for any non-Muslim to say "but they are not following the true Islam" ? (how would non-Muslims know, anyway?)
That's propaganda. They live by it, clan against clan, region against region, they've been doing it for thousands of years and they excel at it.
It's as if we want Islam to be something which it seems not to be and it's as if we claim to know what it should be.
That's the game.
I'm sure we would all just love the religion of peace to be truly peacefull, but what is meant by this "peace" they speak of?
That's the game.
What is it and how is to be achieved?
Death to all non believers.
on 08-08-2015 07:56 PM
Peace of islam? That's an oxymoron.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/01/mike-huckabee-end-abortion-military-intervention
So is this the Peace of Christianity, or is that also an oxymoron?
on 08-08-2015 08:15 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Peace of islam? That's an oxymoron.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/01/mike-huckabee-end-abortion-military-intervention
So is this the Peace of Christianity, or is that also an oxymoron?
That's one persons opinion. An opinion that will never happen.
There are millions of muslim extremist worldwide killing people everyday in the name of allah.
Spare me the one or two Catholics here and there....acting on their own. Muslim extremist' are the militant arm of their religion. They don't want peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rMdC45S79uQ#t=55
08-08-2015 10:04 PM - edited 08-08-2015 10:05 PM
There are millions of muslim extremist worldwide killing people everyday in the name of allah.
And there are millions of other mulsims worldwide going about their everyday lives without the slightest desire to kill anyone in the name of allah - or fr any other reason
08-08-2015 11:07 PM - edited 08-08-2015 11:08 PM
Perhaps they just haven't read their Koran diligently.
My OP was posted in haste and while feeling very angry that people, any number of people, use religion as a justification to oppress other people who don't share their views.
Surely you must admit that of all the religions on earth, Islam excels in this.
on 09-08-2015 11:31 AM
There are nutters everywhere who use religion as an excuse to commit atrocities I think its a shame that all muslims are being lumped together with the extremists. This is both unfair and insulting.