'Bullying has no place in Australia', PM

'Bullying has no place in Australia', PM tells school principals, amid tough talk on university hazing

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/bullying-must-stop-pm-writes-to-schools-amid-university-hazing...

 

this after less than 24hrs from ms cash threats to bully young women in the office of oposition leader bill shorton.

this govt is clueless

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'Bullying has no place in Australia', PM

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'Bullying has no place in Australia', PM tells school principals, amid tough talk on university hazing

 

this govt is clueless


So was every other Govt before them as bullying has always been part of school life from primary school

 

through to Universities and they have never attempted to stop it where it starts.

 

Even today they wont acknowlege that there are bullies in primary schools and their general feedback is that

 

it's only children acting up and they wont/can't do nothing for legal reasons.

 

They are probably worried that the bullies parents may sue them,(after all that's where society seems to be 

 

heading where the innocents have no say and the minority can do what they like).

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Bullying (and intimidation) has always been and will always be a part of politics. It's a matter of interpretation and bias. And we have encouraged it because we sometimes laugh at it and applaud it when it is carried out by the party that we support. Look at Keating's famous "I want to do you slowly" tirade directed at Tim Fischer. He was regarded as a genius wordsmith for that, and a legend. But I wonder how it would go down today, especially if it were said to a female politician.

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i think had ms cash said she would name "politicians" where there were rumors of, well we dont know do we, but rumors all the same.

it would not be an issue as you are quite right politics is known for these sorts of things.

it was the fact she made it "young female staff members" that has caused the outrage.

 

but she didnt and now in my view she should resign from politics as unsuitable to be in office.

 

what makes it worse if thats possible,

she was the Minister for Women! before she got dumped after her last idiotic stunt.

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There appears to be a point in the recent past where a new line has been drawn in the sand and anything that crosses it is viewed to be bullying, intimidation or harassment. My problem is I don't know where the line is now or the rules that apply to crossing it. How literally are we supposed to take this line. Are we expected to abandon our sense of humour and re-define reasonableness?

 

I am not referring to this issue about Ms Cash - sorry I have gone off track a bit. I am making these comments because I am taken by what now arouses and upsets people. There are inconsistencies that I can't follow. Maybe the line is still blurry and that's why I'm struggling.

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its a good thing that bullying is becoming called out more often.

i was bullied at school and was never brave enough to say anything, plus back then i would most likely have been told to 'toughen up' and then become the target of worse treatment had it been let known i'd said something.

 

politices shouldnt be a bully free zone either but it is as ms cash knows by the fact she uses 'parlimentary privalidge' to say stuff she would not be free to say outside the building.

 

there should be no 'hazing' in any schools, in fact the whole 'orientation week' needs a rewrite, no mucking about zero tollerence, your here to learn from day one needs to be the motto not play silly buggas.

 

same goes for the carp at the end of year where the kids now go on binge drinking and partying rampages, its not on.

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David, I think you have highlighted how important it is that society functions in a way to protect the victim, or at least give them a fair go to protect themselves. Victims of bullying etc can feel helpless and hopeless, and unable to stand up for themselves at the time. I just hope the direction we are heading is for the right reasons.

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I think it is a bit rich to lecture to school principals, given the sort of news in the paper recently.

Two girls tried to poison/kill another girl, put poison in her drink bottle or some such thing.

 

The school expelled one of those girls. But the Education Department overturned the school decision, saying that expulsion should be a 'last resort'.

If trying to kill another student does not qualify for the 'last resort' then I am very much afraid school prins have their hands tied.

 

I worked in a school for many years & it is getting tougher. You can be in trouble now if you separate a child ie sit them at a table by themself. I did that a few times when someone was being totally obnoxious & distracting to other kids, pushing their work off tables or whatever. But you're not supposed to do it now.

You really can't expel students these days without a great deal of effort & even then, that would trash the school prin's name with the dept.

 

I've known of (not in my school but a nearby one) primary school students who punched holes in walls, destroyed a toilet, threatened to slit another child's throat, routinely threw stones at passing cars at lunchtime, bashed other children in the playground every day, tried to stab the lollipop lady with one of her flags. I could go on.

 

Quite often what happens is it is the child being threatened who is brought inside (for protection) or escorted to a car after school. But to me this is the wrong way around. It's the thug student who should be inside missing out on lunch play, whose parents should be called to collect him.

I have to tell you though that some of the parents of such children are not much better & teachers can be afraid of confrontation.

 

But if politicians want schools to deal better with bullying, they need to give prins some teeth.

 

 

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'Bullying has no place in Australia', PM tells school principals, amid tough talk on university hazing

 

....yes, but it's alive & well in the workplace 😞

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"Bullying has no place in Australia', PM
...."but it's OK at Centrelink"

There,fixed it.
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