Do Political Statements Have a Place in the Classroom?

THOUSANDS of Australians have been wearing “Close the Camps” T-shirts in a show of support and solidarity with asylum seekers. In the coming weeks, they’ll be joined by up to 500 members of “Teachers for Refugees”, who want to see offshore detention facilities closed.

 

For those whose office is the classroom this simple act of protest becomes all the more meaningful … and all the more controversial.

There are reports that in addition to wearing these T-shirts in the classroom, Victorian teachers intend to hold “informal discussions” with students about Australia’s treatment of refugees.

 

The Victorian Opposition says it’s “political indoctrination” for teachers to openly declare and promote their personal stance on a highly politicised. The Education Union is backing its members’ campaign against the alleged human rights abuses being perpetrated in Australia’s name.

 

It’s an issue where there are almost too many “other hands” to count.

 

Should teachers be expected to keep their personal political views private? Where is the line between teaching students how to think critically about issues and teaching them what to think? How should teachers be expected to handle an increasingly polarised political climate? Is there a point when an issue become too political to be taught in schools and, if so, where is that point?

 

I’m personally sympathetic to the political views of these education activists. Reports about the conditions on Nauru and Manus Island and the harms being perpetrated in Australia’s name are deeply distressing.

 

Like so many Australians, I find myself most affected by stories about children who are growing up in these detention facilities. I can only imagine that teachers — who spend their days working with children of the same age — feel and understand the ramifications of this issue even more acutely.

 
 

And yet, I know I’d be alarmed if the issues teachers were campaigning on weren’t aligned with my own political views.

 

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Tricky Question isn't it?

 

I'd like to think that Teachers in Australian schools are focussed on teaching primary school children the basics of Reading Writing and Arithmetic, at least, instead of their personal politics.

Australian children seem so be slipping down in global educational levels.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-30/australia-declines-in-global-education-report/8077474

 

Australia is losing to Kazakhstan in the latest global education report card.

Key points:
  • Australia plunging down the international leaderboard for Year 4 and Year 8 results
  • Simon Birmingham says pumping more money into schools is not the answer
  • Labor's education spokeswoman Tanya Plibersek agrees results are troubling

The Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) is conducted every four years and shows local students crashing further down the international leaderboard.

 

How embarrassing!

And alarming!

 

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Ban phones from school and they might find the level increases. Bring back discipline in schools too. As it stands these days, kids rule the roost and if they don't want to go to school or don't want to learn, they don't have to. Reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.

 

As for the political stuff, if the teachers want to support that kind of thing, that's fine, but schools are not the place to do it. If they allow this, there will be all sorts of protests going on in the future and kids will be educated even less. It's up to the parents to educate them about this kind of thing.

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As a letter writer said the other day let the teachers wear T-shirts with messages on them but those messages should be the times tables and other education messages.

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True statement: a friend of mine showed me his daughter's one page written item on ANZAC day. The teacher had put  a 'K' on the word ANZAC and made some comment. Not much hope for our kids if the teachers are air-heads.

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No. It isn't part of the curriculum.

Teachers have a private life where they're able to express their political, religious and whatever else views they like.

What would happen if students came to school wearing T-shirts with their written opinions on them?

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Crazy stuff. I have one teenager who has just left the public school system and another in year ten private school. I have also worked in the education sector in various roles for around ten years and been a parent on school governing councils.

 

The public school system has gone to pot litteraly, with large numbers of kids using lunch breaks or skipping class to sneak out of the grounds and smoke dope, returning to class stoned.

 

There is a programme ( FLO, Flexible learning options ) which allows many kids to only attend school a couple of days a week, and while in the programme, not really do much in the way of literacy and numeracy. Its all cooking, crafts and play dough type stuff. In the secondary school of 700 kids my son attended, over 100 where enrolled in the FLO programme.

 

This programme is designed to keep kids who " are not engaged with learning " in the system until the end of year twelve. It just makes the stats look good. On the days the FLO kids are not at school, they either sit at home smoking dope, playing computer games and staying up until 4 in the morning or they hang around outside the school, trying to drag other vulnerable kids away from the structured class.  

 

The parents don't care, the teachers don't care and the education administrators don't care. No-one cares. These kids have been written off by everyone.

 

In the private school my daughter attends it is a completely different story. There is structure, discipline and expectations that the kids attend class, engage in learning and do their best. The difference is chalk and cheese. The NAPLAN results show the difference, with 72% of students in the public school in the bottom 50 % academically and 31% of students from the private school in the bottom 50%.

 

There are still people who know how to run a good school, but they are all in the private system. The public system has been taken over by softy, feely, lefty losers who believe in molly coddling everyone and being ' inclusive" of everyone's rights and beliefs. Even if this is the right to sit outside the school gates, encouraging other kids to bunk off from class and smoke dope.

 

The worlds gone mad.

 

The public school system needs a giant kick up the butt and huge clean out. Get rid of the lefty loons and gay lobby who have taken the show over and install someone who can implement some discipline for students and teachers.

 

 

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Maybe introduce a JOH program to go with the FLO. 😄
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I think blaming the teachers is making a false assumption. when comparing private and public schooling.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/private-v-public-schooling-20150416-1mm8bn.html

 

Having said that, I don't think wearing tshirts with political slogans on them is appropriate in schools. 

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It's not a new phenomenon though.  I can remember my teacher, in late primary so probably around 1970, bringing his Vietnamese wife into our classroom to tell us about the war.  It certainly impacted me and probably had some influence on my developing world view.

 

 

(Quite how or why a teacher in a little small town school in NZ had a Vietnamese wife has been a thing I have sometimes wondered about  over the years Woman Frustrated)

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think blaming the teachers is making a false assumption. when comparing private and public schooling.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/private-v-public-schooling-20150416-1mm8bn.html

 

Having said that, I don't think wearing tshirts with political slogans on them is appropriate in schools. 


I dont blame the teachers she el, the problems go a lot higher than that. There is a cultural problem in the education system that is dominated by socialists and members of the gay community at leadership level. These groups have allowed their own personal views to influence their decisions to the detriment of the public school system.

 

I dont really care who is running the show if they are doing a good job and achieving positive results, but this is clearly not the case in Australias education system.

 

Most private schools are dominated by the major religious organisations in this country. ( not much different to the socialists and gay groups dominating public school office really ).  I personally dont really care for their belief structure any more than I care for socialists doctrines. The big difference is the private schools run by mainstream religous organisations are achieving good academic outcomes. So as parents we put up with morning prayers and weekly religous instruction in order to give our kids a good education.."  If you want to play in their sandpit, you play by their rules."

 

The difference is that private religous based colleges teach positive social values. Respect for yourself and others. Respect for school property. Responsability for your actions and the effects these have on others. Philanthropy and community service.

 

The schools have structure, expect kids to apply themselves, work hard and do their best. Lesson timetables are enforced and students are required to attend all classes. Dress codes are strict and enforced as are behavioral expectations.

 

Compare that to the public system where kids come and go from class as they please, uniform codes are relaxed, behaviour in class is not enforced, kids have rights but no responsibility and no-one is accouintable for anything.

 

The problems are very complex and include the break down in parental responsability, social attitudes in general, socio-ecenomic profiles of public verses private schools etc. But one over riding factor is the culture within the public school system. This needs to change before progress can be made in academic outcomes.

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