on 26-09-2014 11:25 AM
GERMANY’S national ethics council wants to allow incest between siblings
German Ethics Council votes in favour of allowing incest between siblings
GERMANY’S national ethics council wants to allow incest between siblings, saying the risk of disability in children isn’t enough to warrant the law.
The Independent reports that the council made the recommendation after reviewing the case of Patrick Stuebing, a man who was adopted as a child and met his half-sister when he was 24 and she was 16.
The pair have four children together, however he was jailed for three years in 2008 and his sister, Susan Karolewski, was only allowed to keep one out of their four children.
Two of the children are disabled although it is unclear if that is a result of their parents being related.
Overnight, the German Ethics Council recommended that Section 173 of the German criminal code, which makes incest an offence under which offenders can be jailed for years, be repealed.
The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members voting in favour of repealing the law, while nine people voted for the ban to continue and two abstained.
“The majority of the German Ethics Council is of the opinion that it is not appropriate for a criminal law to preserve a social taboo,” the council said. “In the case of consensual incest among adult siblings, neither the fear of negative consequences for the family, nor the possibility of the birth of children from such incestuous relationships can justify a criminal prohibition.
“The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination has more weight in such cases than the abstract protection of the family,” the council added. “Incest between siblings appears to be very rare in Western societies according to the available data but those affected describe how difficult their situation is in light of the threat of punishment.”
Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, a spokeswoman for Angela Merkel’s CDU party, said the abolition of the law against incest would send the wrong message.
“Abolishing criminal punishment against incestuous actions within a family would go completely against protecting the undisturbed development of children,” she told Deutsche Welle.
The Ethics Council’s recommendation only covered incest between siblings and members did not recommend decriminalising sex between parents and children.
on 26-09-2014 11:43 AM
its a crazy world
on 26-09-2014 12:00 PM
I'm in no way saying this is morrally ok, however, if they are both consenting adults, I don't see that it's any state or federal government's bussiness to ban such a thing. Therefore it shouldn't even be a voting issue and what happends in Germany, please let it stay in Germany, only a request, not a demand.
on 26-09-2014 12:06 PM
I hope they don't make it compulsory.
on 26-09-2014 12:14 PM
on 26-09-2014 12:46 PM
on 26-09-2014 02:43 PM
Incest is not just brother and sister acts.
Where does the line get drawn and how does the line get drawn.
on 26-09-2014 02:48 PM
@channys_mum wrote:Incest is not just brother and sister acts.
Where does the line get drawn and how does the line get drawn.
I read the court transcripts of that case and it was so sickening, I stopped before the end.................... I don't understand why they said the disabilities were not related to the incest although they could be things like autism, blindness, speech, spina bifida etc I suppose.
on 26-09-2014 02:49 PM
on 26-09-2014 02:54 PM