Scott Morrison flags good vs bad

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-27/budget-2017-scott-morrison-flags-reporting-changes/8474422

 

the libs allways like to point the finger at poor people as the cause of australias problems.

 

oh, those people there, the ones getting benifits from govt, they are bringing the rest of us down.

 

the ones we are giving money to so their kids can be in all day care so mum and dad can work, they are ok.

the ones we pay to have a holiday because they had a baby, they are ok.

 

but anyone out of work....bad

pensioners....bad

 

its about time we shipped the unemployed and pensioners to manus island, the country would be rid of a lot of baggage.

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@davidc4430 wrote:

 

but anyone out of work....bad

pensioners....bad

 

its about time we shipped the unemployed and pensioners to manus island, the country would be rid of a lot of baggage.


Got a Passport David.???????????

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it's just  the usual smoke and mirrors David to excuse the big deficit

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The "good debt, bad debt" thing is a general term used in ecenomics, business and in personal finance ( ie debt councelling etc. ) on a regular basis. It defines debt that will have a positive future ecenomic impact on the borrower as good ( think purchasing a home or business assett ) and debt that finances immediate ongoing expenditure on consumables or daily living expenses ( borrowing to pay for a shiny new SUV when the old when is still running OK ) as bad. Its not a new idea.

 

The idea that this ecenomic measure would be applied to welfare payments is insensative and innappropriate. On a purely  ecenomic basis welfare payments are usually all spent within the local economy, providing a stimulus effect, encouraging employment, preventing people from engaging in crime, and contributing to housing payments to wealthy, negatively geared property owners through rents etc. Its not as simple as the "good debt, bad debt"  thing.

 

We need to have a public disscussion on how we are spending ( or overspending ) our national income and our ever increasing debt. This needs to go much deeper than simply looking at welfare. There are structural issues right through the economy that have become distorted over time and need addressing. The house prices in Melbourne and Sydney are a glaring example. These are being driven by ( taxpayer funded ? ) negativly geared investors and overseas buyers. Another area of cencern is the ageing population. Allowing young people to use their superannuation to fund the deposit on artificially inflated, expensive houses in Melbourne and Sydney will be counter productive for both house prices and the future retirement income of our aging population, resulting in more elderly on the pension ( bad debt ? ) than would otherwise occur.

 

Of couse these discussions are much too complicated for a two minute sound bite on the news, so we have the simpleton " good debt, bad debt" political spin instead.

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the fact he singles out welfare and medicare worries me.

 

its been long thought this govt in this period is anti welfare and doesnt like medicare and would rather we went down the USA route.

 

i'm thinking are we being 'buttered up' for cuts to welfare and medicare in the budget whilst we go on a spending spree on 'good debt' items.

 

every day i wonder just how anybody lives on the dole let alone the basic pension.

and cuts to medicare services would just make life so much harder to the people who have no choice.

 

remember the 'co payment' idea? so whats the 2017 version going to be?

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From a cold, hard, ecenomic point of view, ( just the way the Libs like it ),  at times of full employment, we have a lot of upward pressure on wages and inflation.

 

Having a small percentage of genuine workers unemployed serves to keep wage inflation down, reducing interest rates and actually saving the government in interest paid on debt. It is only fair that these structurally unemployed people are supported.

 

Its not as simple as " good debt, bad debt". I agree it looks a lot like the U.S.A model where a large section of the population are very poorly paid or living in unemployed poverty whilst the rich get richer.

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