Shorten Sinking Fast

[moonflyte]

Deadweight Shorten sinking fast

Malcolm Turnbull’s ascension to the prime ministership has so dramatically transformed the political landscape that senior Labor figures across the nation are bracing for a potential bloodbath at the next election.

Extensive Labor polling and focus group research undertaken by the party’s national secretariat before Christmas shows that up to a dozen Labor-held seats are at risk of falling to the Liberals as voters recoil at the prospect of a Bill Shorten prime ministership.

Yet the research has also given Labor hope that a strong anti-GST campaign will help to hold some seats. But it reveals that a tax scare campaign may not be enough to stem the Turnbull tide in predominantly middle-class seats with a strong aspirational and entrepreneurial voter cohort.

The polling undertaken by pollsters UMR in marginal seats — which included individual assessments of sitting members — has not been shared fully with MPs or with Shorten and his office. When combined with recent polling by several state branches, it makes for very bleak reading for Labor.

In NSW, the party faces the loss of Julie Owens’s seat of Parramatta and has cause to fear that Tanya Plibersek’s seat of Sydney and Matt Thistlethwaite’s seat of Kingsford-Smith are in danger. Richmond, held by Justine Elliot, is also a concern. There is no hope the party can win the marginal Liberal seat of Reid, held by Craig Laundy. But Labor is eyeing the Liberal seat of Dobell, held by Karen McNamara, and Nickolas Varvaris’s seat of Barton.

In Victoria, four seats are at risk: Chisholm and Bruce, both with retiring MPs; Isaacs, held by Mark Dreyfus; and Melbourne Ports, held by Michael Danby. The party is less concerned about ­McEwen, held by Rob Mitchell, and Bendigo, held by Lisa Chesters. Labor has not given up on winning back Sarah Henderson’s seat of Corangamite and Jason Wood’s seat of LaTrobe.

Elsewhere, the figures are not as bad. There are concerns that Labor’s Terri Butler is in a tight contest in the Queensland seat of Griffith and there is some worry about Wayne Swan in Lilley and Graham Perrett in Moreton. The Liberal-held seat of Hindmarsh in South Australia has been polled, showing Labor is competitive.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/troy-bramston/dead-weight-shorten-sinking-fast-in...

[debra9275]

why? if a person makes a claim they should be able to substantiate it.  That is all anyone has asked, that it be substantianed.

[raptor_rebooted]

omg.....just contact peter van onselen

and ask him if its so important..

[debra9275]

http://www.news.com.au/national/mark-latham-blows-up-about-anthony-albanese-in-column-8216anyone-but...

This is all i can find from years ago

Mark Latham???  2013   LOL

[debra9275]

omg Julia I've checked his twitter page and Kristene K's too

nothing execpt talk about GST

it's not so important to me.. but since that story about abbott having a private meeting with Obama wasn't true either... 

[raptor_rebooted]

who said he met him privately?

[debra9275]

here you go Julia- 

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/02/01/abbott-meets-obama-in-washington.html?utm_camp...

Tony Abbott has reportedly held a private meeting with US President Barack Obama in Washington.

The former prime minister also held secret talks with the president's spy chief, News Corp reported on Monday, noting that the meetings could irk Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

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http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/What-A-Dumped-PM-Does-In-His-Spare-Time/m-p/1915799...

Abbott meets Obama and spy chief in US

TONY Abbott privately met Barack Obama at an exclusive banquet in Washington on a US trip already mired in controversy.

The former prime minister also held secret talks with the president’s spy chief, TheDaily Telegraph reported, and was urged to maintain a global voice on critical issues such as terrorism.

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@debra9275 wrote:

here you go Julia- 

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/02/01/abbott-meets-obama-in-washington.html?utm_camp...

Tony Abbott has reportedly held a private meeting with US President Barack Obama in Washington.

The former prime minister also held secret talks with the president's spy chief, News Corp reported on Monday, noting that the meetings could irk Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

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 if you read on, its says:

Mr Abbott and Mr Obama met at an exclusive banquet on Saturday night, with sources saying the two had a very warm and intimate discussion.

i suppose some would assume 

exclusive banquet meant private

dinner. always a good idea to 

read the whole story. "clickbait" 

is a common tactic, even on this

forum 

http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/What-A-Dumped-PM-Does-In-His-Spare-Time/m-p/1915799...

Abbott meets Obama and spy chief in US

TONY Abbott privately met Barack Obama at an exclusive banquet in Washington on a US trip already mired in controversy.

The former prime minister also held secret talks with the president’s spy chief, TheDaily Telegraph reported, and was urged to maintain a global voice on critical issues such as terrorism.

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[debra9275]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-private-dinner-with-barack-obama-...

Tony Abbott's 'private dinner' with Barack Obama actually a lunch attended by dozens

Former prime minister Tony Abbott crossed paths with US President Barack Obama at an event attended by dozens of other people rather than having a "private dinner" as reported.

Mr Abbott, who has been in the US for several days, met Mr Obama at a lunch of the Alfalfa Club, an informal gathering of high-powered businesspeople and politicians, according to multiple sources.

i suppose some would assume 

exclusive banquet meant private

dinner. always a good idea to 

read the whole story. "clickbait" 

is a common tactic, even on this forum 

calling it a private meeting between abbott and obama is a bit of a long stretch Julia

[raptor_rebooted]

yeah, it did cause a stir didn't it?  

[village_person · Accepted solution]

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@djilukjilly wrote:

It was discussed on Sky with a Labor MP.

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I can inform this debate about the ALP MP who heads up the Anyone But Albanese campaign. After doing some research I can now identify the guy; his name is Bill Shorten. He reckons Albanese would be a lousy leader because of the empty space above his shoulders.