Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

i sold a $600 bag on Ebay early March. Buyer paid in full including the shipping cost for me to post from Australia to Texas.

Buyer refused the bag and sent it straight back to me without filing a return case or any reasoning why she refused it. I also have a no returns policy on my ad and she did NOT file a return item with Ebay so no approval was given for the return from me or from Ebay.

 

Nevertheless, bag eventually got returned to me and I immediately refunded her a partial payment as I had Ebay Seller Fees, Paypal fees and of course shipping fees that has been deducted from my account. Ebay final value fees deducted by Ebay, Paypal fees deducted by Paypal and of course I had to pay the post office to ship the item to her.

 

Buyer has gone psychotic on me, she has written me 10 messages via Ebay platform with swear and foul language, i have attached a file for you all to see. I have since reported her inappropriate language to Ebay and have blocked her from bidding on any of my future items.

 

She has threatened to go to her lawyer to file criminal charges etc for a refund of A$150 (fees) as I have given her the rest of the refund back already A$504. Not sure if she understands lawyer fees is gonna cost her more than A$150!!

 

Anyway, she has filed a dispute to get the money back for the fees but how can I return her the fees monies if I don't have it myself, they have been deducted by Ebay, Paypal and post office respectively. 

 

So my question is, have I done the correct thing or do I have to refund her ALL her money? She refused the item, sent it back with no reason, did not file a return case whatsoever and really she has lost all Ebay Buyer Protection surely? But in good faith I have returned her most of her money minus the fees! 

 

I am hoping Paypal will rule in my favour and if she goes to her lawyer, her lawyer will tell her she is wasting her time for a mere A$150.

 

Please help, any advise or consolation will help me ease my mind.

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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

No, don't let such a disgusting person get the better of you.

It may take a little time but fight it through eBay.

 

And also add the buyer to your BBL if you haven't already so they can't buy another item to mess with your account.

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https://www.ebay.com.au/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-pol...

 

On the above page, under "when a buyer doesn't receive an item" it says this:

 

Generally, the buyer is responsible for accepting the item when it arrives. If the buyer refuses delivery, their claim is not eligible for eBay Money Back Guarantee.

Exceptions:

  • The buyer can provide, via written proof from the carrier, that they refused the package because it arrived empty or was damaged in transit.
  • The item arrived COD because it didn't have enough postage on it.


The buyer is responsible for paying any customs and duty fees for international postage.

Exception:

  • The seller overstated the value of the item, which caused customs fees to be higher.

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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

packtaylor, you've obviously struck a person who doesn't conduct her life with integrity or self-respect, and who is probably deeply unhappy about many things.

 

Try not to read her messages; simply forward them to eBay (reporting as abusive). This lady seems to be using the old "my lawyer" thing as a bludgeon; if she actually has a lawyer, he'd be trying not to roll his eyes at a suggestion that he take action against an Australian seller for not refunding the costs involved in a refused parcel.

 

Don't reply to the lady any further unless you want to make it one very official message to signify that no further correspondence will be entered into. (But really, the more one replies to bullying messages, the more it feeds the bully. That's why I tend not to reply to people who clearly want to engage in verbal fisticuffs; I don't value futile exchanges.)

 

The truth is that an angry person who doesn't want to see any viewpoint other than her own will not acknowledge any perspective other than the one that serves her own purpose. You can explain policy until the sun gets pneumonia, without getting such a person to accept it or agree that she was at fault and that you did everything required of you in this case. Many people will just not "get it". It's the old "never argue with a drunk" saw (because stupidity or mulishly deliberate ignorance can act on the brain's ability to process logic with something of the same effect as alcohol or drugs!).

 

Try - and this is the very trickiest of all - try not to take her attitude and communications personally. This will take the heat out of the situation for you; it's like pouring vinegar onto a box jellyfish sting.

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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

I agree that the less said to the buyer the better. Don't explain the policy to them because if they look it up they'll try and prove that there was a good reason they refused the parcel. If you do say anything to them, simply state that they shouldn't have refused delivery because that negates any buyer protection, and that you aren't responsible for any costs associated with them changing their mind.

Don't worry about facebook - even if she has mentioned you on there, the chances of anyone in Australia seeing it is extremely slim, and people probably wouldn't give much credence to it because of her irrational behaviour (unless they're also like her, and customers like that you don't need anyway!).

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Call eBay and tell them you have already refunded.

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Did you by any chance send the parcel to a trailer park address.....that sounds very like trailer trash talk.Smiley Surprised

 

I googled her lawyer....somehow I doubt that he is going to bother with a $150 ebay case.....he specialises in construction, infrastructure and resources.

 

If ebay follows their own rules I doubt that the buyer will get anywhere but unfortunately ebay seems to change the rules to suit themselves.

 

I really don't know what to suggest but somehow I don't think it is going to be a pleasant experience for you.

Good luck!

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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

Yes, Ebay and Paypal can both see I have already refunded
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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

yes sounds very much like trailer trash. No, it was sent to an apartment in Houston.
No, it is not a pleasant experience at all, I believe I am doing the right thing but feel her threats and horrid language are making me want to just give her the A$150 and be done with it and be out of pocket for this amount.
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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

No, don't let such a disgusting person get the better of you.

It may take a little time but fight it through eBay.

 

And also add the buyer to your BBL if you haven't already so they can't buy another item to mess with your account.

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Thank you kopenhagen5. Ebay has seen the foul language she used from the 10 messages sent via Ebay they have given her a warning. They told me to report it again if I get more horrid and swearing messages from her. They will then suspend her account. I have added her to my BBL. She has opened a case on Paypal to get all her money back and I am hoping Paypal will rule in my favour. Ebay has already removed her negative feedback that she had left me.
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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

You did use the Refund button to refund the money to the buyer didn't you?

If you just sent money to her she may get a full refund from paypal.   You need to watch closely.   How much has paypal put on hold now that there is a dispute open?

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Ebay seller fees, Paypal seller fees and shipping costs, is it refundable?

Yes lyndal1838, I used the refund button on Paypal to refund her partial payment. Ebay and Paypal both have the details that it is processed and completed. Paypal has not put any monies, the status is they are reviewing the case. I have also attached the foul language used by this buyer to Paypal and have explained to them the reason why it is a partial refund due to the Ebay, Paypal and shipping fees.
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I am quite sad that there are such nasty people out there. I have done all the right things by Ebay policy, sent the item to her on the same day she paid, refunded her partial payment when she refused and sent the item back for no reason then demands a full refund. I have been on Ebay for 17 years with 1544 positive feedback and this is the first time i have come across such a horrid experience. I feel like crying.
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