on โ26-04-2018 05:43 PM
i sold a $600 bag on Ebay early March. Buyer paid in full including the shipping cost for me to post from Australia to Texas.
Buyer refused the bag and sent it straight back to me without filing a return case or any reasoning why she refused it. I also have a no returns policy on my ad and she did NOT file a return item with Ebay so no approval was given for the return from me or from Ebay.
Nevertheless, bag eventually got returned to me and I immediately refunded her a partial payment as I had Ebay Seller Fees, Paypal fees and of course shipping fees that has been deducted from my account. Ebay final value fees deducted by Ebay, Paypal fees deducted by Paypal and of course I had to pay the post office to ship the item to her.
Buyer has gone psychotic on me, she has written me 10 messages via Ebay platform with swear and foul language, i have attached a file for you all to see. I have since reported her inappropriate language to Ebay and have blocked her from bidding on any of my future items.
She has threatened to go to her lawyer to file criminal charges etc for a refund of A$150 (fees) as I have given her the rest of the refund back already A$504. Not sure if she understands lawyer fees is gonna cost her more than A$150!!
Anyway, she has filed a dispute to get the money back for the fees but how can I return her the fees monies if I don't have it myself, they have been deducted by Ebay, Paypal and post office respectively.
So my question is, have I done the correct thing or do I have to refund her ALL her money? She refused the item, sent it back with no reason, did not file a return case whatsoever and really she has lost all Ebay Buyer Protection surely? But in good faith I have returned her most of her money minus the fees!
I am hoping Paypal will rule in my favour and if she goes to her lawyer, her lawyer will tell her she is wasting her time for a mere A$150.
Please help, any advise or consolation will help me ease my mind.
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โ26-04-2018 06:51 PM - edited โ26-04-2018 06:54 PM
No, don't let such a disgusting person get the better of you.
It may take a little time but fight it through eBay.
And also add the buyer to your BBL if you haven't already so they can't buy another item to mess with your account.
on โ26-04-2018 08:45 PM
On the above page, under "when a buyer doesn't receive an item" it says this:
Generally, the buyer is responsible for accepting the item when it arrives. If the buyer refuses delivery, their claim is not eligible for eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Exceptions:
The buyer is responsible for paying any customs and duty fees for international postage.
Exception:
on โ27-04-2018 08:16 AM
packtaylor, you've obviously struck a person who doesn't conduct her life with integrity or self-respect, and who is probably deeply unhappy about many things.
Try not to read her messages; simply forward them to eBay (reporting as abusive). This lady seems to be using the old "my lawyer" thing as a bludgeon; if she actually has a lawyer, he'd be trying not to roll his eyes at a suggestion that he take action against an Australian seller for not refunding the costs involved in a refused parcel.
Don't reply to the lady any further unless you want to make it one very official message to signify that no further correspondence will be entered into. (But really, the more one replies to bullying messages, the more it feeds the bully. That's why I tend not to reply to people who clearly want to engage in verbal fisticuffs; I don't value futile exchanges.)
The truth is that an angry person who doesn't want to see any viewpoint other than her own will not acknowledge any perspective other than the one that serves her own purpose. You can explain policy until the sun gets pneumonia, without getting such a person to accept it or agree that she was at fault and that you did everything required of you in this case. Many people will just not "get it". It's the old "never argue with a drunk" saw (because stupidity or mulishly deliberate ignorance can act on the brain's ability to process logic with something of the same effect as alcohol or drugs!).
Try - and this is the very trickiest of all - try not to take her attitude and communications personally. This will take the heat out of the situation for you; it's like pouring vinegar onto a box jellyfish sting.
on โ27-04-2018 08:28 AM
on โ26-04-2018 06:07 PM
on โ26-04-2018 06:08 PM
Did you by any chance send the parcel to a trailer park address.....that sounds very like trailer trash talk.
I googled her lawyer....somehow I doubt that he is going to bother with a $150 ebay case.....he specialises in construction, infrastructure and resources.
If ebay follows their own rules I doubt that the buyer will get anywhere but unfortunately ebay seems to change the rules to suit themselves.
I really don't know what to suggest but somehow I don't think it is going to be a pleasant experience for you.
Good luck!
on โ26-04-2018 06:28 PM
on โ26-04-2018 06:32 PM
โ26-04-2018 06:51 PM - edited โ26-04-2018 06:54 PM
on โ26-04-2018 07:02 PM
on โ26-04-2018 07:14 PM
You did use the Refund button to refund the money to the buyer didn't you?
If you just sent money to her she may get a full refund from paypal. You need to watch closely. How much has paypal put on hold now that there is a dispute open?
on โ26-04-2018 07:18 PM
on โ26-04-2018 07:28 PM