Royal Copenhagen - dating this backstamp

[samjess54]

Happy Easter All. 

I have a few pieces of Royal Copenhagen that I am listing - the backstamp of one is in attached pic. 

It seems to me from reference to R/C website that the backstamp is 1889-1922; it certainly seems pre the one they introduced 1935.  My only doubts with saying mine are 1889-1922 is that I am wondering why they do not give a backmark for 1923-1934??

Hoping someone can confirm (or otherwise)  that this plate's backstamp dates it as 1889-1922.

Thank you.

https://www.royalcopenhagen.com/ourpassion/marks

[twyngwyn]

It looks new compared to this one....good luck

https://www.flickr.com/photos/water000fall/2796972940

[samjess54]

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@twyngwyn wrote:

It looks new compared to this one....good luck

https://www.flickr.com/photos/water000fall/2796972940

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I agree - mine does look new in comparison; mine is in lovely condition - was collected by a friend 10-15yrs ago.

Have attached photo of the same backmark on a saucer which looks as though has had a little more wear.

[twyngwyn]

can you sand a picture of the front?

[samjess54]

This attachment is of the 22cm plate - I have another with same backstamp but different painter.  I'll attach a pic of the saucer next.

The pattern is Blue Fluted Plain for the plates at least; the saucer has a gold rim so might be called something else.

[samjess54]

Picture of saucer front.

Thanks for your interest - I had been going cross eyed trying to decide the dates by various searches and was wanting to bounce it off someone else.

[siddieswans]

It could simply be that they no longer bother to date mark their dinner ware - such as Blue Fluted - your pattern.  I can't see any of the dots or slashes that were used to date this backstamp up to 2004 - but then I can't find anything on the Internet for marks 2004 onwards - so perhaps they stopped marking then?

http://www.jamerantik.dk/musselmalet.htm#Riflet

gives the numbers of the individual pieces. For pieces in good condition (that were not made in Thailand as RC is now - have no idea if they still make Blue Fluted) it probably does not matter much - it is after all useful ware.

[kopenhagen5]

It appears your saucer with the gold edge is pattern no 1.

Scroll to the picture in the makers mark link you have.

I am guessing 1923 mark was used for anything beyond up until 1935. Probably just the site has omitted it.

Yours definitely look like 1989-1922.

[samjess54]

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@siddieswans wrote:

It could simply be that they no longer bother to date mark their dinner ware - such as Blue Fluted - your pattern.  I can't see any of the dots or slashes that were used to date this backstamp up to 2004 - but then I can't find anything on the Internet for marks 2004 onwards - so perhaps they stopped marking then?

http://www.jamerantik.dk/musselmalet.htm#Riflet

gives the numbers of the individual pieces. For pieces in good condition (that were not made in Thailand as RC is now - have no idea if they still make Blue Fluted) it probably does not matter much - it is after all useful ware.

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Thank you.  I'm comfortable that these are not modern pieces - the backstamp info given by RC on their website shows that the post 1935 marks include [DENMARK] and they give the dates for up to 2014..

https://www.royalcopenhagen.com/ourpassion/marks

With regards the pattern RC also call it their Pattern No 1 and it is still in production. 

https://www.royalcopenhagen.com/ourpassion/patterns

What has also been confusing for me is that in the same lot are 6 sideplates with exactly the same painted pattern but the plate profile is not 'fluted' and they were made 1970-1983 by Bing & Grondahl (who merged into RC in 1987). I am thinking that the pattern itself might be a bit generic as in "Blue Willow" which has been used by lots of companies - although RC in the above link lay claim to having adapted a Chinese inspired design in the 1700s.

All this is confusing to me in the nicest way - I love finding out about things.

[samjess54]

Thanks kopenhagen - that's what I was thinking/hoping. Are you AKA Copenhagen5?