Internet speeds: Australia ranks 44th

[fourandsixpants]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-12/australian-internet-speeds-rank-44th-in-the-world/6012570

A US study has delivered an unwelcome finding about Australian internet speeds, finding that they are well behind the international pack.

One engineering expert said the nation would continue to tumble down in world rankings if the rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN) continues in its current form.

....Australia's relative decline was because many other countries were moving forward apace with new and upgraded networks.

"The drop is happening because a lot of other countries over this period are moving towards fibre-based access networks, or they've already completed rollouts of what we would call the multi-technology mixing/mixed networks...."

"Whatever way you look at it, what it means is that the average speeds that Australians are enjoying are slowly becoming less than most of our competitors around the world."

Copper-based network slowing Australia down: expert

Federal Government's decision to switch from fibre-to-the-home to a mixed fibre/copper network was part of the reason for the decline.

"One of the reasons is that we're falling down the list [is] that we're moving towards utilising a copper-based access network," he said.

"Whereas previously, under the Labor government, we were moving towards an all fibre-based network, which is what most of our competitors are now doing.........

We all know this!!!!!

"The key difference between New Zealand and Australia is that New Zealand made the decision to do fibre-to-the-premise, they've stuck with that decision," he said.

Even though Australia is much larger geographically, Dr Gregory said fibre-to-the-home should be financially viable for a network to cover the vast bulk of the population.

"Fibre-to-the-premise is viable in Australia, mainly because most Australians are clustered around the coast," he said.

"If you look at the density of Australians, then really we don't differ very much from most other countries in the world, we're just a large country, but with the technologies that we've got today to actually roll out fibre systems, the cost is not that different from most other countries in the world."

Average connection speed by country

1. South Korea

2. Hong Kong

3. Japan

4. Switzerland

5. Sweden

6. Netherlands

7. Ireland

8. Latvia

9. Czech Republic

10. Singapore

44. Australia

Source: Akamai's State of the Internet Report

WHAT IS WRONG WITH MALCOLM TURNBULL AND THE LNP/COALITION ???

[daydream**believer · Accepted solution]

try living with my internet.

From approx 2pm everyday, it drops out every 5 -10min.

At approx 7:30pm every night, it stops working completely until about 9am

When it is working, the speed is so slow it can take 10min to open my fb page.

When the phone rings, it drops out

If i go to make a call on the phone, it drops out.

If it rains, it drops out.

If its too hot, it drops out

I pay $50.00 a month for my internet with iinet. iinet are doing everything possible to fix my issue but the problem is the telstra internet cables in my street. One telstra techy told me they are the worst hes ever seen. But telstra wont fix them cause the NBN rollout might happen in the next 5 - 10 years 

[poddster]

Are you a true believer in the carte blanche government credit card to pay for everything?

Paints, the piper has to be paid and paid and paid eventually.

Is you credit card maxed out?

[poddster]

Place the blame on the NBN monopoly. I wonder who set that up?

DDB do you have a 3G inerrnet signal where you are?

If so get a 3G wireless hotspot, problem solved.

You too can fall in love, like Icy 🙂

[monman12]

Repeating oneself seems to be the order of the day LOL

Seriously, we need to talk about and then actively address Australian internet Upload Speeds....

I agree P007  Chuckle.  The particular  manipulated and incorrect  graph you posted  has been used before to "support" a biased opinion. The figure highlighted is deliberately  wrong,  as the debt:GDP ratio has NEVER reached the low figure indicated,  and  the alleged  low point indicated was 7 YEARS ago  NOT  CURRENT as stated.

The source leaves a lot to be desired:   Truth Seekers Musings  "This is a proudly Australian , left wing site, dedicated to satirical political poetry from a 58 year old singer/songwriter."

We do have a  relatively low debt:gdp ratio, but it is increasing at  at a fair rate:

ABC

the Treasurer's other claim - that growth in Australia's net debt is the third highest among the 17 nations surveyed. On this point, he's also correct.

I do not look at my neighbours and declare they owe more than I do while I am "racking up" greater  increases in my debt than most of them. 

IMF chart

I will be happy to discuss Internet up/down speeds but  going on past experience am I to expect posts as unreliable (fanciful)  as this one of yours and others I have read in the past, to say nothing of the lack of technical knowledge and research  together with  exaggeration?

[joz*garage]

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

how much faster does my internet need to be?

my porn downloads fast enough

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depends how often theyre browsed

if the browser clags up, theres nothing like a good clean to maintain good performance

and coupled with adblock, nobody knows where ive been

[monman12]

 G58  research apropos propagation within copper and optic fibre, because  it would seem that you misunderstand the term.

Here are some relevant figures apropos PROPAGATION within,   Cat5e cable,  300 ohm twin cable, and  optic fibre:

A pulse sent down 100' of RG58 will have 154,045pS delay, FSJ1 will have a 130,346pS delay, Fibre will have a 149,515pS delay  (pS = picosecond)

Meaning,  PROPAGATION is faster in twin-lead  which has a typical propagation speed of 0.82 c.

As POD says "The shrill cacophony is more about political agenda than the Internet." Just look at the tone, content and IDs of those involved within  this debate!

[monman12]

 G58  research apropos propagation within copper and optic fibre, because  it would seem that you misunderstand the term.

Here are some relevant figures apropos PROPAGATION within  Cat5e cable,  300 ohm twin cable, and  optic fibre:

A pulse sent down 100' of RG58 will have 154,045pS delay, FSJ1 will have a 130,346pS delay, Fibre will have a 149,515pS delay  (pS = picosecond)

Meaning,  PROPAGATION is faster in twin-lead  which has a typical propagation speed of 0.82 c.

As POD says "The shrill cacophony is more about political agenda than the Internet." Just look at the tone, content and IDs of those involved within  this debate!

[fourandsixpants]

to daydream who said:

try living with my internet.

From approx 2pm everyday, it drops out every 5 -10min.

At approx 7:30pm every night, it stops working completely until about 9am

When it is working, the speed is so slow it can take 10min to open my fb page.

When the phone rings, it drops out

If i go to make a call on the phone, it drops out.

If it rains, it drops out.

If its too hot, it drops out

I pay $50.00 a month for my internet with iinet. iinet are doing everything possible to fix my issue but the problem is the telstra internet cables in my street. One telstra techy told me they are the worst hes ever seen. But telstra wont fix them cause the NBN rollout might happen in the next 5 - 10 years 

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I have Landline and broadband. I pay top dollar for a premium service. Have a 'report' in atm,placed last Friday ref internet drop-outs, intermittent connectivity, wretched speed .....and if I make/receive calls on L/Line I get cut-off.Was told that guarantee to fix by Wednesday 7pm and a credit. Whoopty.

My sis-in-law moved into new house 4 months ago, her street established for YEARS......was told no broadband can be given as no spare 'pole' in her street and she would have to wait for someone else to move out!!! LOL

She pays $1.45/min ph calls from mobile and $30 for 10 whatevers of d/load/month.

[fourandsixpants]

to podd:

Are you a true believer in the carte blanche government credit card to pay for everything?

Paints, the piper has to be paid and paid and paid eventually.

Is you credit card maxed out?

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I don't have a credit card so your comment is useless and lame imo......personal too.

Govt should hand over the reins if they can't budget.

[gleee58 · Accepted solution]

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@poddster wrote:

Nowhere have I stated that a solid reliable comms network is not needed.

And you have missed the point of the propagation speed in copper versus optic fibre. That was to illustrate that the speed of copper as a medium is the same as optic fibre. just to puncture the overinflated claim that copper is "slow", it isn't.

Both copper and fibre have advantages as well ad disadvantages. To illustrate. an existing copper net work is far superior to a nonexistent fibre network.

As far as the general household is concerned FTTN is more than enough as is 25Mbps Fixed wireless.

The shrill demand that the current government deliver an undeliverable false promise is pure political hoo haa.

The ill informed, gullible populace has swallowed the clap trap hook, line and sinker.

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You haven't been following the saga if that's what you think.,  The FTTN is up to 25Mbps and fixed wireless is only available and optimal in not densly populated areas.  

It sounds like you've fallen for the BS hook, line and sinker if you think the FTTP network wasn't being delivered because it was.  The transit network was mostly completed, about half (or more) of the POIs have been completed and there are thousands of premises connected.  NBN Co is bragging about how good it is now and what they're bragging about is all Quigley designed and commenced.

You're calling millions of people around the world ill informed and gullible when the reality is you hate it because Labor had the courage to do it after the Libs faffed about for years and did nothing.