Help please.

I received unjustified negative feedback from a buyer. When I laid the facts out, he has bid on another of my items and left more negative feedback. Clearly just in retaliation.

I requested feedback revision only for the buyer to decline and state that the original feedback was correct.

Ebay's automated reply is that they won't change the feedback and to respect the buyer's decision!
Completely unacceptible when the buyer is clearly harassing me and creating negative feedback.

Please help

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I received unjustified negative feedback from a buyer. When I laid the facts out, he has bid on another of my items and left more negative feedback. Clearly just in retaliation.

I requested feedback revision only for the buyer to decline and state that the original feedback was correct.

Ebay's automated reply is that they won't change the feedback and to respect the buyer's decision!
Completely unacceptible when the buyer is clearly harassing me and creating negative feedback.

Please help


I am not sure the second purchase was just for retaliation. He clearly doesn't like you nor you him, but I think you're selling stuff that he does like. That latest purchase is showing to me as $120 and I can't imagine anyone would spend that much unless they really wanted the thing.

But I can see your point. He obviously was a bit tardy paying for the first thing and it sounds as if he may have made a low ball offer on the second.

Here's the main worry though. He likes your stuff, so he may try to buy a third time. And we both know that that would not go well feedback wise either.

 

So first off, you need to block him from ever buying from you again.

 

Next, I understand he didn't pay for item 1. It sounds as if you put in an unpaid item claim against him but then sold straight away, before that had gone through and been sorted. So he paid very late, after an ebay prompting. You did the right thing to open a claim but you'd be better off to let it run its course and wait for either the buyer to get a strike or pay before you put the item back on the market. Frustrating, but would avoid these hassles. That's another reason to block him, you don't want tardy payers.

 

Lastly, your replies to feedback. A neg isn't the end of the world for a seller & sometimes some buyers are unreasonable.

Ebay may or may not remove feedback, depends what is in it.

But your only concern with feedback should not be what any numpty has to say. You've already got your money from them, the deal's done. Your concern should be for what impression it will give to other potential buyers. You don't want them being turned off by unfair claims.

I think when you get a neg, it's a good idea to reply to it, but if I were you, I would leave out any personal comments because you only get about 80 characters, so just state objectively what the problem was or how you solved it. Give other buyers credit to read between lines and see if the buyer helped create the problem. For example, in the earlier reply, those first 8 words in your reply said it all, other potential customers now know you had a problem getting payment from the buyer, Job done. No need to get personal after that, keep it professional so readers aren't distracted by abuse and can focus on the real problem.

 

With the latest item, was it advertised as $300? It is showing as $300 on the feedback screen but as sold for $120.

Not sure what happened there but you could have answered with something along lines of  Originally $300, accepted $120, not prepared to go lower.

Your aim should be to make other potential buyers feel confident the negs were not deserved or that you fix problems and are a reliable seller.

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I,m with the other responders to your OP regards response to feedback, but that aside........

 

You have some great items there. The stuff you are selling is a classic example of rare,  niche items for a specialised market and you obviously know your stuff and where to find it. The only problem is with the 99 cent starts to auctions, some of it is going way to cheap. Is it worth opening a store and listing your items as BINS ? The store would have a lot of appeal and attract return buyers and followers and you could build a good business over time.

 

The good items that are currently selling for 99 cents could be priced up a bit more and while they may not sell immediately as they do with a 99 cent start auction, you would build inventory instead of giving them away. ( increase listing numbers over time ) None of the items selling for 99 cents are duds. ( in fact none of your items are duds, they all fit in  with the theme of the other items you are selling ) They just didnt find the right buyer over the auction period.

 

The only question is whether some of your stuff is currently selling at auction for a lot more than you expect, offsetting the losses from the single bid 99 cent start auctions. 

 

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Thank you. Finally, a well thought out reply that doesn't dwell on my remarks.
Point taken and good advice. This is what I was hoping for in the first place. Thanks again.
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@cactusfever01 wrote:
Thank you. Finally, a well thought out reply that doesn't dwell on my remarks.
Point taken and good advice. This is what I was hoping for in the first place. Thanks again.

You may have got a lot more help, a lot sooner.

I know this is not what you want to hear, but you need to learn to curb your attitude, dont post replys or feedback in the heat of the moment, there is always plenty of time for a considered response and some times it is best not to reply at all.

 

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Or call people uneducated when no doubt their education far surpasses the name caller.

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Kopen, your response wasn't based on the body of my message.

You focused on something you didn't like and chimed in without looking at the content of my message.

Again, you've just seen what you want to see; I didn't call you uneducated, I said your response was uneducated i.e. you didn't know or bother to find out what the complete facts to the story were. I'm surprised you didn't get that, considering there is no doubt your education apparently surpasses mine.

 

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haha, I'm not after sympathy, nor after your uneducated response. You're as bad as him.

I knew you may say so, however, you personalised your first remark when you incuded the last piece within context.

Had you omitted the last piece, I would have read it as being pertaining to my response only.

 

Looks like I am educating on grammatics currently.

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And as for not looking at the body of your message, that is also incorrect.

But when responding to anyone on a forum without having background info, intonations etc. then I find it pertinent to research a little before lending assistance. 

In this case I found your post not worthy of a response based on where your attitude seemed to stem from and on the contrary attempted to point out a flaw in your methods.

 

Take it or leave it.

You always decide your own path in life.

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@cactusfever01,

 

The feedback that you have both given and received shows a pleasant, efficient seller (and buyer) - as a general rule. The exceptions are when something has gone wrong... and then all of a sudden your feedback comments become unprofessional and offensive.

 

 

Spoiler

You have a favourite comment which doesn't seem to match up with the buyer's or seller's actual behaviour. Have you personally inspected the nether regions of said buyers or sellers? And if so, can you confirm that peroxiding one's rear passage is a shocking and terrible thing to do? (I can't fathom why anyone would apply bleach in that area; I'd have thought it would be an unpleasant burning sensation causing damage and irritation... and unconnected with a range of behaviours such as not paying for a purchase, being "on the spectrum", being rude, being a liar, proffering endless excuses causing you to waste two months, etc.}

 

What were you thinking when you threw the term "window licker" at a seller? If that seller is actually a person with a mental disability, using that pejorative would be deeply and very personally offensive. If the seller has actually just failed to follow through with the sale, it's not appropriate to use that term - it's not just offensive but it doesn't make sense.

 

 

How you phrase your feedback is your business, of course, as long as it's within eBay policy. Posting in a public forum, though, is a tacit invitation to be scrutinised... I hope you're not too offended by the scrutiny. (I did say that most of your feedback is excellent!) As I'm a buyer only on eBay, perhaps you can take my comments on the chin. I think you're probably able to take advice and change behaviour according to increased information. For instance, you learned at some stage that giving negative comments with a positive green dot was counter-productive (and against eBay policy); you changed that behaviour.

 

As others have said in this thread, how you respond as a seller to a bad situation or a problem or a difficult buyer is part of what can make you stand out in a very positive way. You can turn around the overall impression that a potential buyer would get from looking at your feedback, just by the way that you reply to a buyer's feedback comment.

 

For instance, the first half of the feedback that you initially gave the recent buyer would have been fine. ❝Refunded $. Non payer until prompted by ebay.❞

 

Even better, perhaps, something like this: ❝[buyer username], so sorry you couldn't pay before Unpaid process. Fully refunded.❞

 

In that way, you explain the situation calmly, explain that it was resolved, and maintain your cool. Buyers would look at that and most wouldn't consider you to be in the wrong. It would probably increase the trust factor rather than lower it. The positive spin can only increase the possibility of further sales. But the second half of that feedback doesn't give that good impression; it makes you look bad. It's a bit like the nursery rhyme about Longfellow's little girl with a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead, veering between being very good and being horrid.

 

lRule of thumb: never post feedback when you're upset or feeling outrage or with the idea of "teaching that buyer a lesson". Only post when you've read it over several times, trying to see it through the eyes of potential buyers - after a cup of black coffee since the blues caught your eye...

 

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Even better - if the UPI process is used properly neither party can leave feedback. And the fact that the buyer paid means that it wasn't actually a UPI.

 

If, however, the seller is so outraged by a common occurrenceand has experience of bleaching...

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