Where does the root cause lie??

I know many people will think on reading this post, "Not that old acorn", but I don't think we are finished talking about this issue central to our selling or  . . . non-selling !!!

 

What is the root cause/s of what a large number of sellers are now experiencing as a significant downturn in their volume of sales ?

 

Certainly there are many economic factors that are beyond the control or ebay or sellers, that contribute to this happening.

 

But I also honestly believe that the general trend in the policies that ebay has adopted in the last couple of years (and before !) have contributed to a downturn in potential buyer interest.

 

Although ebay purport to have put in place policies that are great for buyers, there has been such a resulting outcry, not just in the ebay community but also to some extent the wider community about ebay's and PayPal's policies and practices that it may well have scared a proportion of buyers off.

 

Ebay and PayPal are increasingly being labelled 'dodgy' in some quarters and that can't be good for them . . .or US!

 

What do others think?

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@thecatspjs wrote:

Gosh I don't think that those who are successful Oz sellers that have decent volume of sales or growth should be as you put it "derided"

 

To the contrary any advice that "successful" sellers seek to provide to others in a non-patronising manner with good will is certainly always given consideration by myself, and from time to time I have integrated those tips into my own practices.

 

 


I dont know about the "succesful" bit but my sales are ticking along reasonably well, with a few real highlights now and again.

I,ve noticed something very interesting in the last 6-12 months. One of the places I have always purchased stock, ( antiques and collectables ) used to have a huge amount of competition for good items from other people looking for stock to resell on ebay. Lately they all seem to have dissapeared and I can find a lot more juicy items than I could 12 months ago. These are actually cheaper than they where as there is less competition for them, The rare items still sell really well, especially to overseas buyers. The International market does not seem as slow as the Austrtalian market. Basically the competition dropping away has been quite positive for this sector of my sales which is not slowing at all, but achieving some great auction prices lately. The International market still seems to be growing and is probably around 30% - 40% of my sales now. This may be worth looking at if you sell one -off items such as rare collectables.

 

My stores are still ticking along quite well, but one is starting to get a bit high on the defect front at around 1.5 % which is a bit of a worry. Stock for the stores is very easy to find as not many ebayers are chasing it ,which means I can sell a little bit cheaper to make up for the flat, local ebay economy and still maintain good profit margins.

 

Store sales are stable, but I cant seem to break through a certain figure which seems to be my hidden ebay limit, that we hear about. I seem to get throttled regularly. A couple of days of good sales then nothing much for the next three. I have got used to it and have a fairly low care factor for trying to grow my ebay business these days. I,m just happy to reach my hidden limit and not have to work too hard to do it.

 

Ebay seemed to have a glitch a few weeks ago where the throttling wasnt working for around ten days. The sales over this period where amazing and I actually got behind with the packing and mailing even though I was working on packing full time 8-9 hours a day.  ( Thats the first time buyers where buying stuff quicker than I could pack it for an extended period of time ) It just shows what could be possible if we where just left alone to sell stuff.

 

I have to admit though, if postage cost rise dramatically, that will be very damaging for sellers on ebay and is very concerning given many are struggling already.

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i REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS TOO ..

 

I remember them days when it was hard to get to the post office due to a constant stream of buyers .. and yes I know what you mean about early to mid January .. it outsold February literally 10 to 1 for me too  reality for me is that ebay obviously decided to hide me for all of February to make up for it so I can't get too excited by a flurry of buyers here and there .. sounds like cassini had us on a similar rotation ,, anyway I actually removed all my inventory from ebay and decided to offload it for nicks as the stress and BS and interference is beyond a joke .. I would rather just dump most of the stuff than put up with all the ebay nonsense and am noticing many sellers are savagely reducing their prices and heading for the doors so February has been the worst race to the bottom I seen on ebay in the 15 years I have been using the place and is literally not worth it to list anything aside from my high end stock which I am a reluctant to do with all these money back guarantees and new policies etc and the ever present risk of a bank initiated paypal charge-back or money freeze or whatever else they can do to you at the drop of a hat .. I know what you mean about the antique side of things but be careful holding too much inventory as ebay seems to have a way of meticulously and very suddenly and recklessly destroying a target category here and there and no use complaining as once they roll out the policy change that caused the problem they usually stick with it for just long enough to drive that part of your business into the ground .. anyway I hope the good times last for you .. an antique dealer friend of mine says things are tough and ebay drives him crazy and often he needs to sell for less than he purchased for etc but he still persists and says he gets good value from it from time to time but it requires sustained effort etc .. I should point out to casual readers here that antiques are really a market where knowledge, luck, EFFORT and specialisation is everything so not for everyone ..  😞 .. anyway the time has come to bow out as have been watching a few of my target categories self destruct and just when you think it can't get any worse it does .. so no motivation to do the ebay thing fulltime any longer as the ride is just too bumpy .. maybe a little here and there when an item but that will be it .. my valuable stuff I would rather sell face to face from now on so really don't want to be posting stuff like that any more either .. and paypal is just plain scarey for me when selling expensive stuff .. and in my 15 years selling on ebaY i am proud to say I never ripped off a single person but unfortuantely ebay decided to persist in their idiotic one size fits all treat every seller like a scammer policy so has just sealed the deal for me really .. as I said; good luck with it ..

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Youre right about the need for antiques and collectables sellers needing knowlege, luck, effort and specialisation. If sellers specialise in one field that intrests them, they will enjoy what they are doing and the knowledge will come with time. With knowledge comes luck. The more you learn, the luckier you become.

 

As for leaving ebay, I think one of the biggest problems ebay has is " its just not fun anymore ".

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@thecatspjs wrote:

I think if you want to offload a few dozen rocks every month or cheap chinese junk then this is the place to be Cat Indifferent

 

 


As opposed to buying second hand clothes from op shops, that were originally made in a sweat shop in China? Yessum...

 

lol

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Gosh, you consisently post that the sale of rocks is going well sheeps. 

 

I have yet to see a second hand clothes seller (aside from PJ) make a recent post to the boards that things are going so well for them and that they are experiencing growth - to the contrary many note they have experienced a decline.

 

Hence my comments.  I certainly would not call what I sell on this ID cheap Chinese junk.

 

I have made no comments regarding sweat shops in China - that issue was raised by another poster.

 

I am not sure what Op Shops have got to do with anything ?  What do you mean by that ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I know when my sales tanked.  I downgraded my store from $50 a month to $20 a month when they brought in the 200 listings for a $20 shop.  From that day forward, my sales tanked.  Christmas before last, the piles of mail leaving here daily filled 2 green bags. Last Christmas I had 2 sales. Now, I sell a few items a week, rather than a few items a day.

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