on 03-06-2022 09:32 PM - last edited on 04-06-2022 01:31 AM by gewens
Hi Ebayers
I’ve received two automated phone calls recently.
Just wanted to confirm if the they are legit from Ebay or just more scammers;
Thanks
on 04-06-2022 01:40 AM
Ebay will never contact you by phone, nor will most agencies, including the ATO, Medicare etc.
Never answer calls from numbers you don't know and never engage with anyone on the phone or press any buttons to confirm or deny their questions.
Just let them go to voicemail - if they are genuine, they'll leave a message.
on 04-06-2022 09:48 AM
Total, total scam
on 04-06-2022 09:54 AM
Definitely a scam. Ebay would very rarely call people, and when they do, they also send a message to the eBay mailbox confirming it is them.
on 17-06-2022 04:49 PM - last edited on 18-06-2022 01:34 AM by gewens
This has happened to me today, with calls from the following phone numbers: REMOVED Why is nobody tracking these numbers and prosecuting the individuals who set up these automated calls!
18-06-2022 02:20 AM - edited 18-06-2022 02:24 AM
@stfl56 wrote:This has happened to me today, with calls from the following phone numbers: REMOVED Why is nobody tracking these numbers and prosecuting the individuals who set up these automated calls!
one of the pitfalls of our current communications technologies is the ability of a caller to have a different number appear on the receiver's phone.
Calls can originate in overseas countries but appear to be from Sydney or Adelaide or any other place in Australia.
Tracking the numbers and/or prosecuting the callers is nigh impossible.
If you search for the number on any of the 'reverse number search' webpages you can leave a message against that number to help others. You may even find the number that called you has comments already.
http://www.reverseaustralia.com/lookup/0291129640/
As an aside, my wife has received several calls to her mobile from people claiming they are calling her back because they missed her call.
One particular caller upset her with his rudeness so she gave her phone to me. I asked this d/head when the call was made and he said "minutes ago". I told him my wife and I were sitting watching telly and that no call was made from my wife's phone.
He got all threatening and abusive so I hung up on him and blocked the number he had called from.
It is quite possible that some scammer was able to call him and have my wife's mobile number appear on his caller ID. Fortunately, my wife hasn't received any of those type of calls since that aggressive caller. If someone calls and says they are returning a missed call she would now answer "wasn't me" and hang up and block. No point engaging with agrieved strangers over this.
on 18-06-2022 03:31 AM
This is from an informative article on the Telstra website. (I've edited it slightly.)
What is call spoofing? How scammers are using your phone number for fake calls
Fake calls are on the rise, and the perpetrators are using old tricks in new ways. It’s called “call spoofing”, and it’s where real phone numbers – sometimes even yours – are being used to scam others. Here’s how it works, and how to stay safe.
First things first: Telstra is spending a lot of time and effort developing and progressively rolling out system capabilities that can detect and block scam calls before they reach their customers.
These systems aim to block calls originated from off network sources that have suspicious calling patterns or that spoof or use unassigned numbers to gain credibility when dialling their victims on the Telstra network.
If a Telstra customer has been the victim of a call spoofing scam, they can report it to Telstra via the Telstra website.
What is call spoofing?
Call spoofing is where a phone scammer will falsify the calling number to trick a user into picking up or making a call look more legitimate.
It’s a global problem, and it’s unfortunately on the rise over the last few years.
Spoofing occurs when a scammer originates calls, usually via “robocalling” technology, with fake caller IDs i.e. the scammers are using technology to originate calls with legitimate Australian numbers included as the caller ID.
Telstra has strict controls that helps prevent the possibility of caller ID spoofing from arising internally within its own network. However spoofing can still occur with calls that reach Telstra customers when originating from outside of the Telstra network.
Scammers know that people are more likely to pick up the phone to a number that looks legitimate, rather than one that appears as private, blocked, or from overseas.
Scammers may also call you from spoofed numbers that are “adjacent” to yours. It’s a social engineering tactic designed to increase the chances you’ll pick up the phone. It’s a new type of spoofing that uses your so-called ‘number neighbours’ against you.
For example, if your number is 0400 000 000, they may call you from 0400 000 001 to increase the chances you’ll pick up.
And some people have called by what looks their own number. If you have experienced this, the scammer has spoofed your number and by chance has called you as a potential victim, so that it looks like you are calling yourself.
Rest assured Telstra is working on solutions to prevent as much spoofing as possible.
What happens if you pick up a spoofed call?
Once the target picks up the phone, an automated message will play, often demanding money and threatening fake consequences if there’s a failure to pay. Telstra has noticed phone scammers recently impersonating government departments like Services Australia or Border Force; Amazon; eBay and sometimes even Telstra or NBN Co.
Some call spoofing attacks even connect you to a real person whose job it is to extract cash from you under false pretences.
Whether personalised or automated, the scammers often apply time pressure and the threat of sanctions or penalties if you fail to pay while on the call.
They may also be after other identifying information to use in other fraudulent activities, so it’s important you don’t give out any of your personal information while on a call and if you suspect it is a scam call, hang up immediately.
Call spoofing may use real people’s phone numbers to execute an attack. This can lead to difficult conversations when the victim calls or texts the number back and reaches a legitimate service whose owner has no idea their number is being used in a scam ring.
Here is how you can spot scam calls when they come in.
How can I tell if my number is being used for call spoofing?
If your number has been spoofed by a scammer, you’ll often find out right away.
If a victim were to redial the number they were scammed from, they would reach the rightful owner.
If that owner is you, a barrage of unexpected abuse might come your way . Someone might even just call you out of the blue to ask why you tried to scam them or demand to know why you’re harassing them.
That’s a good indicator your number has been used in a spoofing scam.
Telstra say that they are ❝actively blocking scam calls at a network level, meaning that these sorts of calls won’t be able to reach your device. On average, we’re now blocking around 13 million scam calls per month.❞
on 22-06-2022 10:44 PM
Except, since they are "actively blocking scam calls at a network level", I'm getting more than ever! I rarely got them before. Now, since this new thing, I'm getting them quite regularly. Yes, I have got them from "number neighbours". I got one from my husband's number. I knew he wasn't trying to call me because he was sitting watching TV with me at the time.
on 23-06-2022 03:22 AM
Telstra are blocking millions of them, but the number of scam calls is greater than even this.
Imagine getting a call from your own husband when it’s perfectly obvious he cannot actually be calling. Did you think initially that his phone had been stolen or something of that sort?
It’s a real problem.
If you’re in the mood, there are some interesting YouTube channels run by IT experts who have been trained in “scammer fighting” and have looked resources to gather information on, identify, interrupt with illegal activities, waste the time of, shut down, etc. various scammers in their call centres. These guys are able to do this while not exposing their own real/actual devices to the scammers.
Two in particular are entertaining but very adept, and they reveal the typical tricks and scripts of those employed at the call centres.
https://youtube.com/c/ScammerPayback (known as Pierogi)
https://youtube.com/c/KitbogaShow (known as Kitboga)