BUYER BE AWARE OVER RATED STRENGTH RAITINGS ON BRAID LINES & FAKE FLUOROCARBON , DO THE TESTS

[mefixu5]

MOST OF THE CHEAPER BRAID FISHING LINE ON EBAY IS FALSELY ADVERTISED. BY OVER RATING THEIR LINE CAPACITY,

I VE BOUGHT & TESTED ALL THE BRAID THAT I HAVE PURCHEST & ALL THE BRAID MY 2 SONS HAVE BEEN BUYING.

SINCE LOOSING FISH DUE TO LINE FAILURE ON BOTH BRAIDED & FLUOROCARBON LINES.

THEY ARE OVER RATED BY OVER HALF WHAT THEY CLAIM TO BE.

EG, 100LB LINE IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT 100LBS OF WEIGHT!! SIMPLE ENOUGH, ISNT IT,

I VE TESTED NO LESS THAN 15 DIFFERENT BRAIDED LINES & 12 FLUOROCARBON LINES FOR STRENTH & THE RESULTS ARE SHOCKING ALL OF THEM, DONT COME ANYWHERE NEAR THE STRENTH ADVERTISED

100LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 39 -46LBS

40LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 17 -19LBS

30LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 12-14LBS

& SO ON.. BOTH BIN BRAIDED & FLUOROCARBON LINES

PLEASE TEST YOUR NEXT PURCHASE, BY SIMPLY TRYING TO SUPPORT WEIGHTS EQUALL TO THE LINE RATING YOU BOUGHT,,

IF YOU GOT A 50LB BRAID OR FLUOROCARBON LINE, TIE IT TO A WEIGHT OF 50LB & TRY TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT.

IF RATING IS CORRECT IT SHOULD SUPPORT THE WEIGHT,

WHEN YOU DO THIS TEST, YOU WILL NOTICE THE LINE WILL BREAK & YOUR 50LB LINE WOULD BE LUCKY TO SUPPORT 22LBS. UNDER HALF THE STRENGHT ADVERTISED

THATS FRAUD, RIGHT THERE,  THAT COULD BE CAUSING YOU TO LOSE YOUR CATCH!!

YOU SHOULD DEMAND A REFUND..

ALSO TEST YOUR FLUOROCARBON FOR STENGTH THE SAME WAY..

BUT ALSO DO THE BURN TEST. TO SEE IF IT IS ACTUALLY FLUOROCARBON. OR YOUR GETTING RIPPED OFF, & PAYING 5 TIMES TO MUCH FOR JUST A MONO LINE

PUT A FLAME TO THE END OF YOUR LINE, IF IT CATCHES A LIGHT OR BURNS VERY EASY, ITS PROBALLY NOT FLUOROCARBON, & JUST MONO.

FLUOROCARBON DOESNT IGNITE INTO FLAME, IT SORT OF MELTS INTO A BALL & GOES BLACKISH MUCH SLOWER THAN MONO.

SO BUYER BE AWARE.

IF YOUR PRODUCT FAILS THE WEIGHT TEST OR THE FIRE TEST.

DEMAND A REFUND, YOUR BEING RIPPED OFF. I HAVE BEEN AGAIN & AGAIN WITH BRAID V& FLUOROCARBON.

ONLY BY TESTING & DEMANDING REFUNDS FROM THESE SELLERS SELLING FAKE & OR MISREPRESENTED ITEMS.

CAN WE SEE THE END OF THESE SELLERS, SELLING THEIR SUBSTANDARD OR EVEN FRAUDULENT WHARES TO PEOPLE BUYING & SPENDING THEIR MONEY IN GOOD FAITH.

I LD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE ELSE DOING TESTS ON THESE PRODUCTS, ALSO ABOUT TESTED GOOD PRODUCT.

IF THERE IS ANY ON LINE

CHEERS

[phorum_junkie*]

Ebay calculate that about 5% of members read the boards and of those I should imagine you would be lucky if you found 0.1% who had ever bought or intend buying fishing line then of course I imagine 90% of the 0.1% of the 5% would read a post where the member is typing in capitals which are not only hard to read but are considered shouting and rather rude.

[extra-keen]

I don't buy fishing line, but my husband does.

I suspect from his comments that some of the larger outlets of this stuff are no better!

and Please use lower case, all up case is soooo hard to read

[evil_akuma_2002]

Whilst I agree that some of the ebay braid is rubbish, some is also very good - breaking well above the quoted strength. I have some cheapo braid on reels that performs just as good as the well-known brands.

Don't forget also, that a knot can reduce the breaking strain by almost half - the only 100% knots are the bimini twist and the plaited double. Attaching a swivel, lure or hook, the best knots are the  centauri and the snell - but even those are only around 70% strength.

Here's a good site for knots.

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forumdisplay.php/111-Animated-Fishing-Knots

As far as quality braids go, why buy on ebay if you want quality? You know as well as I, that most ebay items can be, let's say - less than top quality! Caveat Emptor, I say.

Here's another site with some really good strength tests of various braids.

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/4linetesting.htm

As far as F/C goes, If you're buying chinese, you deserve what you get! Buy from a tackle shop. Or buy Berkley Vanish. Never had an issue with that one.

And please...no shouting! (Capitals).

[iamanark]

THANK YOU FOR USING UPPERCASE

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IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER TO READ

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IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADIES POST

[joethenuts]

i havent had that problem  maybe thats because my fish i catch  are the size of small sardines  lol

[lane-ends]

If you are talking The $6 'powerpro" from china vs $69 from the tackle shop are you surprised? It is obviously fake. But it still works just expect to buy higher rating and expect thicker line for rating. I use this stuff at least twice a week and still going after 2-3 years, on at least 10 reels.

The thing to watch is aus resellers buying the chinese stuff then reslling it as genuine at $30 a time. whereas for $6 its worth it.

If you are fishing extreme conditions go the genuine, but for middle of the road its fine.

The same fakes are sold by online stores outside of Ebay. You can tell they are fakes as they all have the same product code regardless of whats on the spool.

[lane-ends]

Line rating is not tested by simply hanging a weight on it either.

In use weakening by abrasion wear is likely to be higher. Casting distance due to increased thickness is much reduced along with reel capacity.

It makes good backing line then use quality at the business end, rather than tick mono backing taking too much spool spcae

[gregknibb]

Hi, I just recently bought some Bullet Proof PE Braid line, supposedly rated at 130 lb, which breaks consistently below 40 pounds.  In all fairness the company did offered to refund the money if I returned the braid.  The problem with sending it back is I would loose the evidence that this Company is acting fraudulently.  

[bobbiegower]

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@evil_akuma_2002 wrote:

Don't forget also, that a knot can reduce the breaking strain by almost half - the only 100% knots are the bimini twist and the plaited double. Attaching a swivel, lure or hook, the best knots are the  centauri and the snell - but even those are only around 70% strength

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Older thread I know (apologies) but just wanted to emphasise this post. You will NEVER get braid, or mono for that matter, to break at anywhere near the test strength in practical applications because of knot limitations. Some of the more common attachment knots are around 50-60% so you lose close enough to half of the test strength right off the bat.

Another consideration is IFGA compliance. Nothing would be worse (in fishing terms) to land a world record breaker on 80lb test that subsequently tests at 100lb when submitted to the IFGA. For that reason virtually every line manufacturer overstates test strength by somewhere in the order of 10-20% as a rule.

So using your 100lb line as an example it's like this -

Nominally 100lb, reduction to 85lb for IFGA compliance (yes I knoiw 100lb isn't an IFGA class but you get my drift).
~60% strength knot, fairly standard for non specialty knots.

Which leaves you with about 50% of the original test strength, and these are fairly generous numbers. So I'd suggest your test numbers are very close to the mark, certainly within an appectable margin for error anyway.