on 12-05-2015 12:12 PM - last edited on 12-05-2015 08:15 PM by xau8575
[user] has been selling fake stones set in silver coated metal and calling it 925 sterling silver. How can this seller be stopped from conning others and banned from ebay
on 15-05-2015 08:17 PM
Joe, Tupperware is made in Japan, Korea, China, India, Greece, Belgium, France, Portugal, South Africa, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico and the USA.
If you work on the assumption that it will only be genuine if it is sold in one of those countries does that mean that the Tupperware sellers in Australia are selling fakes? I don't think so. There is as much chance of fakes from the countries where it is actually made as from other countries. Again it comes back to the seller's feedback.
on 15-05-2015 08:36 PM
fair enough
on 15-05-2015 10:12 PM
@springyzone wrote:I found it interesting to read that thread. Visit China before buying is suggested as an option?? You're kidding me.
We have 11ben telling us he onsold some items in the belief they were real and advice given to him is he should have had the stones tested before re-selling them and it is hoped he refunded buyers the money and profusely apologised.
Yet the Chinese sellers who sold him the fakes? We have others making the comment that if it seemed a good deal, he should not have been sucked in. No comment about the chinese sellers being held to account.
My view is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
If he is to be found at fault for selling something that turned out to be fake & could have his seller account trashed, then that should happen to Chinese sellers too.
I am sure most people here would think that but there seems to be a fatalist sense of despair-people have almost given up that ebay will do anything to Chinese sellers or that anything can be done about it.
It should not be the fault of a buyer if an item is fake, no matter what the price. They shouldn't have to guess it is fake. It is up to the seller to be accurate.
In an ideal world.
Absolutely. If OP has only bought recently, wouldn't he be able to claim Item Not as Described (with proof) and be entitled to a full refund ? In which case (Chinese) Seller would have to pay the return postage ? I am quite sure as a Seller that is how eBay would be treating the OP in the exact same situation - selling an INAD.
It seems simple & straight forward to me, the items ARE NOT as they were described - or am I missing something . . . . . . in this instance I don't think it makes any difference where the items came from or how much was paid for them, just my thoughts . . . . .
it cannot be fair and reasonable for the OP to have their account trashed and risk suspension & the original seller walks away scott free, that is just wrong and stinks of double standards !!
on 16-05-2015 03:38 PM
Haven't read the entire thread, but how can someone sell you fake jewellery for a while ?
Why would you purchase again after the first fake item arrived ?? Once bitten, twice.......etc
Buyers can only be ripped off if they allow it to happen.
on 17-05-2015 09:08 AM
My guess is it can happen if the buyer only finds out later on.. after having made other purchases previously.
Re the fake/real tupperware. I am only buying labels. I am pretty certain they can't be the real thing as the real ones have Tupperware actually written up the top, whereas these ones don't, but are listed as a Tupperware item.
I don't have a problem with substitute labels as such, as long as they work, but it did just make me wonder if the seller's other Tupperware items were genuine.
I am not sure how you would tell a fake Tupperware item as I assume any plastic would have the Tupperware name imprinted into it.
on 17-05-2015 09:58 AM
hi if your certain they are fakes dont buy them ,
on 17-05-2015 10:35 PM
on 19-05-2015 05:55 PM
All this 'I told you so', 'should have...' and just negative attitudes about my situation does not offer any sound advice.
Try and keep your personal opinions to yourselves and offer constructive advice would be better.
Any bytheway, who cares about the price of Tupperware, you guys just don't get the explanation as a comparison to my situation.
Don't lose sight of the topic please
@digupatin wrote:My understanding, from reading OP's other thread is OP purchased a large order of the item without requesting a sample, visiting the seller in China, investigating the seller, or even investing in a gemstone indicator kit available for a few dollars.
They were hoping to then resell the items and make a 'get rich quick' profit.
OP states that they had purchased too many to return???? and has already sold some to unsuspecting customers.
What OP has now to do to have any chance of a refund is to get the alleged fake items tested and proved to be fake.
Just restating that they are counterfeit without producing evidence will not aid his issues.
With 20/20 hindsight maybe OP should have done more before making a purchase.
If it seems too good to be true it probably isn't.
on 19-05-2015 06:01 PM
Ebay doesn't seem to be responsible for counterfeit sellers on the site and no mention of their ability to do anything about it
@springyzone wrote:I found it interesting to read that thread. Visit China before buying is suggested as an option?? You're kidding me.
We have 11ben telling us he onsold some items in the belief they were real and advice given to him is he should have had the stones tested before re-selling them and it is hoped he refunded buyers the money and profusely apologised.
Yet the Chinese sellers who sold him the fakes? We have others making the comment that if it seemed a good deal, he should not have been sucked in. No comment about the chinese sellers being held to account.
My view is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
If he is to be found at fault for selling something that turned out to be fake & could have his seller account trashed, then that should happen to Chinese sellers too.
I am sure most people here would think that but there seems to be a fatalist sense of despair-people have almost given up that ebay will do anything to Chinese sellers or that anything can be done about it.
It should not be the fault of a buyer if an item is fake, no matter what the price. They shouldn't have to guess it is fake. It is up to the seller to be accurate.
In an ideal world.
@springyzone wrote:I found it interesting to read that thread. Visit China before buying is suggested as an option?? You're kidding me.
We have 11ben telling us he onsold some items in the belief they were real and advice given to him is he should have had the stones tested before re-selling them and it is hoped he refunded buyers the money and profusely apologised.
Yet the Chinese sellers who sold him the fakes? We have others making the comment that if it seemed a good deal, he should not have been sucked in. No comment about the chinese sellers being held to account.
My view is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
If he is to be found at fault for selling something that turned out to be fake & could have his seller account trashed, then that should happen to Chinese sellers too.
I am sure most people here would think that but there seems to be a fatalist sense of despair-people have almost given up that ebay will do anything to Chinese sellers or that anything can be done about it.
It should not be the fault of a buyer if an item is fake, no matter what the price. They shouldn't have to guess it is fake. It is up to the seller to be accurate.
In an ideal world.
on 19-05-2015 06:29 PM
@11ben1963 wrote:Ebay doesn't seem to be responsible for counterfeit sellers on the site and no mention of their ability to do anything about it
Ebay may take an interest in a store selling counterfeit items WHEN you prove the items you have purchased and have been onselling ARE fake.
As has been suggested several times, get the items tested, get official paperwork saying the items are fake, THEN forward the information to eBay.
How hard is that?
You asked for advice, if it's not the advice you are looking for try asking elsewhere.