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Has anyone else noticed how items on Ebay appear to be getting more expensive these days. I think a lot of sellers now have an over-inflated sense of value of the items they are trying to sell. Its almost at the point where its cheaper, if not the same price, to buy it from a main stream shop nowadays.

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@1004tutelar_8 wrote:

Hi

 

I have become more cautios as many items are selling much cheaper in the local shops.

For example, I have bought Glen20 from one of ebay seller for $15 and it took almost a week to receive however I have found that my local Woolworths is selling for $8 only.

 

I advised the seller and request to send me the difference but the seller is asking to return with 'the original condition'.

They are not fair and is anyone know how I can discuss this matter with ebay?

 

Many thanks.


 

I can see why you are annoyed. I mean, bunnings offer a lowest price guarantee as do Officeworks and many other retailers . . . so why shouldn't eBay sellers?

 

The flaw in this thinking us that you DID NOT buy from a retailer offering lowest price guarantee . . . and I doubt any non-retailer eBay seller would.

 

By the way, welcome to the boards and thanks for sharing your story. I am sure there are members who read it who are very happy you posted here.

 

**edited to add**  a welcome smiley face Smiley Happy 

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@1004tutelar_8,

 

Like other posters on this thread, I do very strongly suggest that you do your price comparisons before you buy.

 

However, to answer your question, yes, in a way, and no, in another way.

 

Re the "yes" portion - it's too late for this particular purchase because there is only a 48-hour window for buyers to make use of eBay's Best Price Guarantee:

 

❝If you've bought any new, 'Buy It Now' item but then found the item for less on an approved online retail website, let our customer service team know within 48 hours of the original purchase on eBay.com.au.

 

We'll check that your item qualifies, and if it does, we'll give you a voucher for the price difference plus 5% of the online retail site's price, which you can use towards your next purchase on eBay.com.au.❞

 

Re the "no" portion - the way you have worded your posts seems to be that you want the seller to receive back your used Glen 20 spray on the basis of "I found it cheaper elsewhere". Are you serious? On the ACCC's site - specifically on the Repair, Replace, Refund page - it is specifically stated that:

 

❝Consumer guarantees do not apply if you:

  • got what you asked for but simply changed your mind, found it cheaper somewhere else, decided you did not like the purchase or had no use for it❞

(Rubrication is mine.)

 

The seller is certainly not going to give you "the difference". You don't know how much it cost the seller; you purchased at the listed price; the seller has been charged fees based on that price; that's that. It would be poor buyer behaviour to try to browbeat the seller into giving you a partial refund just because you found the item cheaper from somewhere else after the fact.

 

If you are truly not aware that you have no right to a refund just because you find the item cheaper after you've already bought it, I strongly suggest that you read the entire Australian Consumer Legislation to be aware of your rights and responsibilities.

 

There are shops in Australia that offer no-questions-asked refunds for items returned in their original condition, but they don't reimburse you for your cost to get to the store... and most will not include return postage in their refund policies. Furthermore, these sorts of refund policies are STORE policies - purely optional, decided upon by the individual shop or chain of shops or whatever it may be.

 

Quite often you will indeed find that you can buy things at a reasonable price from your local stores. For example, Coles are offering the original Glen 20 (original) 300g spray at $4. (I'm sorry if you're gnashing your teeth at this.)

 

Moral of your experience: try to buy locally. Our economy needs it, especially after the beating it's had with the bushfires.

 

Other moral of your experience: look and compare. It's too late once you've hit the buy it now button.

 

Another moral of your experience: sellers can set whatever price they want. It is not illegal to set a higher price than the price offered by others. eBay will not browbeat a seller and force them to sell their items at an eBay-dictated price - at least, not in this sort of scenario. After all, why should eBay do that? Every seller will have different cost to cover, different margins, different expenses.

 

Final moral of your experience: it's only a few dollars. You'll be wiser next time, and you haven't lost a fortune.

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@1004tutelar_8 wrote:

Hi

 

I have become more cautios as many items are selling much cheaper in the local shops.

For example, I have bought Glen20 from one of ebay seller for $15 and it took almost a week to receive however I have found that my local Woolworths is selling for $8 only.

 

I advised the seller and request to send me the difference but the seller is asking to return with 'the original condition'.

They are not fair and is anyone know how I can discuss this matter with ebay?

 

Many thanks.


Hi 1004tutelar, whatever others may make of your post, I thgink it's good that you've brought this to our attention. Just goes to show that some sellers are selling everyday stuff at crazy prices. Perhaps seller didn't take into account the current prices, or it could just be about the money.

Perhaps a neutral feedback would be warranted as you can' really tell if greed was the seller's motivated. Feedback could read, "Took a week and cheaper in WW" or something.


Anyway, sorry to hear of your not so good experience.

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@4channel

 

Feedback could read, "Took a week and cheaper in WW" or something.

 

 

now that is feedback that I think eBay might remove regardless of how factual it is or whether it is the buyer opinion.

 

Reason being that the feedback mentions an off-eBay retailer and we know how paranoid eBay are of members going off-eBay .  I think that the seller could successfully ask eBay to remove the feedback.

 

Another grounds for removal woulld be that the cheaper in WW part of the feedback has nothing to do with that transaction.

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@4channel

 

Perhaps seller didn't take into account the current prices, or it could just be about the money.

 

 

OR,  the seller had costs additional to the purchase price of the product.

 

These could include, but are not limited to:

- eBay final value fees

- PayPal fees

- packaging costs

- other incidental costs like fuel etc.

 

You know, for someone who has previously posted about the ‘time value’ of members’ time when messed around by seller cancelling/reneging on a sale you seem to not cut sellers the same sort of ‘time value’ consideration . . . in fact your post today seems to disregard any seller costs associated with selling this item.  If the seller has a store there would be even more costs.

 

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The seller may have paid twice what Woolies pays.

If people want to have the convenience of shopping online they need to compare it to shopping at the local corner store where things are often double the price of Woolies. If they can't be bothered driving to shops like Woolies, then they can't complain when they have to add the price of postage on.  Do they expect Woolies to deliver it for the same price they sell it in store?

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Picture this...

 

A buyer comes steaming into a Woolworths store, brandishing a can of Glen 20.

 

    BUYER: Service! I say, service!

 

Behind the customer service desk is a sleekly coiffed young woman with improbable eyelashes.

 

    CUSTOMER SERVICE REP: No, sir, we're in Toorak.

 

    BUYER: What? Er - Jodie, is it?

 

Buyer squints at CS rep's name tag.

 

    CS REP: Yes, Jodie, sir. This is the Toorak Woolworths, not Surfers Paradise.

 

Buyer does a double-take.

 

    BUYER: I said service, not Surfers.

 

    CS REP: Ah. Sir's forceful timbre made it difficult to tell. How may I assist sir?

 

    BUYER: It's about this can of Glen 20.

 

    CS REP: Which I behold sir holding in a most eloquent fashion. Yet I cannot yet enfathom sir's intended import.

 

    BUYER: My import? My import? That, Jodie - to put it pithily - is precisely the point!

 

   CS REP: No doubt it is my as yet untutored ability to unwind the tagliatelle of sir's mind, but I remain to this second unsauced by sir's point. May I ask sir to elucidate?

 

    BUYER: I'll bally well elucidate, Jodie. I'll elucidate with all the clarity of a really good consommé

 

    CS REP: Aisle 7.

 

    BUYER: What?

 

    CS REP: Consommé is in aisle 7.

 

    BUYER: I don't want to buy any bally consommé. I'll be having carpaccio of Maldivian long line caught yellow fin tuna fanning an island of Rio Grande Valley avocado crème fraîche topped with young coconut, accompanied by a compôte of succulent spinach and onion besottedly served with morels stuffed with chicken farce and mixed herb-smoked mashed potatoes, followed by a Batlow Jazz apple and sorrel sorbet veiled like a virgin bride with Batlow apple blossom, the whole surrounded passionately by a Turkish caramelised hazelnut crumble. And don't start telling me in what aisle I can buy apples. I'm not buying apples. I'm not here for apples.

 

    CS REP: Sir has made himself most plain with respect to the apple situation.

 

    BUYER: Good. I don't want to leave a soupçon of doubt.

 

    CS REP: None left on the apple front, sir.

 

    BUYER: So let me get right to the point. It's this can.

 

    CS REP: I behold with pleated gaze the can which sir raises as though paid a most obscene amount to endorse it on a commercial.

 

    BUYER: I bally well do not endorse it. I won't be having that. Not for one second. Here! Is anyone filming this?

 

    CS REP: I can assure sir that no official cameras are memorialising sir's visage and behaviours, although there may be some smart phone activity taking in sir's lustrous words.

 

    BUYER: I want all smart phone cameras to be stopped immediately, and the perpetrators to be taken and most rudely pummelled.

 

    CS REP: I apologise with all the truffle-sprinkled grief of an uncalved French sow, sir; we do not carry pummelling in this store.

 

    BUYER: No, that's all right - my personal pummellers will take care of it.

 

Sounds of angry shouts and screams and pummelling heard.

 

    BUYER: Yes, I never go anywhere without my personal pummellers. But to get back to this Glen 20, Jodie, can you confirm for me that this is priced at $8.00?

 

    CS REP: Of course, sir. One moment, sir, while I complete sir's request.

 

CS REP speaks into tannoy.

 

    CS REP: Price check at the service desk, please. One 300g can original Glen 20. Please expedite price check for many and varied reasons, none of which I can convey over the tannoy. Urgent price check...

 

    PRICE CHECKING EMPLOYEE OVER A DISTANT TANNOY: Price check information for Jodie, expedited urgently. One can 300g original Glen 20 is $8.00. Repeat, eight dollars. Hopefully this information will allay service desk situation.

 

    CS REP: Information received, thank you.

 

CS REP puts down tannoy.

 

    CS REP: Sir will be pleased to know that his tentative suggestion of a price of $8.00 is confirmed.

 

    BUYER: Sir is bally well not pleased. I was charged $708.82 for this can of Glen 20! Tell me how that happened, if you can!

 

    CS REP: That's certainly quite a discrepancy. Did sir purchase, perchance, 97 cans of Glen 20?

 

    BUYER: No, I did not. I specifically ordered one can. One can! I'm most particular about that. Why would I need 97 cans? I wouldn't.

 

    CS REP: Is it possible that sir also took cash out when making the purchase? A cash withdrawal of seven hundred dollars and 82 cents?

 

    BUYER: Most definitely not. I wasn't even here; it was an online purchase. Clearly I have been overcharged and I most emphatically and robustly demand a refund for the overpayment!

 

    CS REP: Sir does indeed have a robustness in his speech which is as relentless as the sweet crooning of an unlicensed sawmill erected next to one's bedroom overnight. Perhaps sir has his receipt with him, so that I may sally forth to redress any fiscal injustice.

 

    BUYER: I make it my business to carry receipts with me within scrolls from my well-stocked library, for there is nothing, I say nothing, quite like reading over one's past purchases in receipt form for engaging the mind. Some people speak of Proust - merde! say I to Proust. Some people speak of Shakespeare - a pox on him, I say! Give me a good rousing charge-me-up filibuster of a catalogue of receipts, and nothing is more certain to content, excite, and tantalise to an almost indecent extent. Here, volume MXVI - the exact receipt is precisely 39 and a half feet from the top.

 

Buyer unrolls long scroll.

 

CS rep solemnly reads the appropriate receipt after locating it in the scroll, and a faint muffled sound is heard from the rep. It may be incredulous laughter; it may be a despairing moan.

 

    CS REP: Sir is pleased to jest with me, I see.

 

    BUYER: No jest, no jest at all. I keep all of my humorous receipts in another volume entirely. Well? Well?

 

    CS REP: Sir would have to have the brain of a plain vanilla custard not to have realised what the additional cost comprised. The truth of sir's misapprehension rises like a vigorous and most unwholesome odour, akin to that of a very putrid yellow fin caught some matter of a week ago by a gap-toothed fisherman and left since then in front of a heater. This is in contrast to the freshness with which we - Woolworths the Fresh Food People at Toorak - provided the relevant information viz-à-viz the aforementioned receipt. Perhaps sir will cast his orbs upon this line here, where is detailed the small matter of the delivery charge.

 

    BUYER: Delivery charge? What noisome trick is this? Surely you cannot be telling me that I paid seven hundred dollars or so for delivering an eight dollar can of Glen 20?

 

    CS REP: Sir did state that the delivery address was Como Parrot Cay in sir's private villa there... and sir did request next day delivery...

 

    BUYER: Oh. Well, still, seven hundred dollars delivery. I'll bally well get the butler to buy it locally next time - and I hope that'll teach the whole bally lot of you!

 

Please note: this is for entertainment purposes although it addresses the topic in a humorous way. It is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are products of the poster's imagination or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental.

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@4channel wrote:

 

Hi 1004tutelar, whatever others may make of your post, I thgink it's good that you've brought this to our attention. Just goes to show that some sellers are selling everyday stuff at crazy prices. Perhaps seller didn't take into account the current prices, or it could just be about the money.

Perhaps a neutral feedback would be warranted as you can' really tell if greed was the seller's motivated. Feedback could read, "Took a week and cheaper in WW" or something.


Anyway, sorry to hear of your not so good experience.


Neutral feedback? On what grounds? If the buyer received what was advertised, in the described condition and time-frame specified, finding the same item cheaper afterwards isn't a reason to mark the seller down.

 

 



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@1004tutelar_8 wrote:

Hi

 

I have become more cautios as many items are selling much cheaper in the local shops.

For example, I have bought Glen20 from one of ebay seller for $15 and it took almost a week to receive however I have found that my local Woolworths is selling for $8 only.

 

I advised the seller and request to send me the difference but the seller is asking to return with 'the original condition'.

They are not fair and is anyone know how I can discuss this matter with ebay?

 

Many thanks.


The woolies price wouldn't have included home delivery though.

And you would have to bring your own bag to carry it home, no wrapping of any kind included either.

 

What possessed you to buy Glen 20 as a one off from ebay anyway?

I could understand buying it as part of an online grocery purchase from some place like Catch of the Day, but even there, postage would not be free for one small item.

Realistically, it is always going to add on to the cost if something has to be posted out and it is always going to take a few days to get to you. The convenience might be worth it, but usually you'd be better off popping into a supermarket if you're after very small things.

 

You need to realise sometimes supermarkets & big stores can negotiate extra special prices on some items because they buy in bulk, and sometimes they will sell something at cost price or lower. Sometimes they can sell things cheaper than smaller retailers can get it for at trade price.

 

Prices vary on these sorts of things from week to week and shop to shop. There's no guarantee ebay will always be the cheapest.

You bought, you paid, you got what you ordered. Not entitled to a refund in my book.

 

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

@4channel

 

Perhaps seller didn't take into account the current prices, or it could just be about the money.

 

 

OR,  the seller had costs additional to the purchase price of the product.

 

These could include, but are not limited to:

- eBay final value fees

- PayPal fees

- packaging costs

- other incidental costs like fuel etc.

 

You know, for someone who has previously posted about the ‘time value’ of members’ time when messed around by seller cancelling/reneging on a sale you seem to not cut sellers the same sort of ‘time value’ consideration . . . in fact your post today seems to disregard any seller costs associated with selling this item.  If the seller has a store there would be even more costs.

 


Actually I ran out of time yesterday as I had to go and do something. I wanted to do a follow up after my last post but had to take off. I will admit that the list you gave under "These could include, but are not limited to:" does make sense. Acutally the seller could be providing door to door service or a convinient way for the buyer so one would expect to pay a bit more.  So I do see the point with the first half of what you say.

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