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20-10-2020 10:58 PM - edited 20-10-2020 11:00 PM
Some of you may have had your PayPal account restricted or frozen due to PayPal requesting further info When speaking to a PayPal consultant, the resojn given is that tthis is what Austrac is demanding of PayPal. PayPal seems to be targeted some account holders and not others from what is evident aat his stage. PayPal's asking for sensitive info DOB, home address and other. This is then sent to Equifax for confirmation. So people who have had PayPal accounts for years are suddenly hit with this. So now residential and other sensitive info is going to be accessed by another external party, possibly two. It's understandable that people are concerned and uncomfortable with this. And failure to comply means that funds within PayPal are frozen. lucky for PayPal though, funds can still be paid in.and of course, you can't buy or sell using your PayPal account until that info is given.
So in this (whatever you want to call it) the players are PayPal, Austrac and Equifax.
AUSTRAC orders audit of PayPal Australia’s compliance with financial crime laws24 Sep 2019AUSTRAC has ordered the appointment of an external auditor to examine ongoing concerns in regard to PayPal Australia’s compliance with the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing Act 2006 (the AML/CTF Act).
These concerns relate to PayPal Australia’s compliance with its International Funds Transfer Instruction reporting obligations, which require regulated entities to report the transfer of funds or property to or from Australia.
And tnow there's another PayPal issue similar to this one that has been happening earlier
Some of you may have had your PayPal account restricted or frozen due to PayPal requesting further info When speaking to a PayPal consultant, the reason given is that this is what Austrac is demanding of PayPal. PayPal seems to be targeted some account holders and not others from what is evident at his stage. The people targeted seem to be the folks that have a balance. A balance of a hundred dollars gets frozen. PayPal's asking for sensitive info DOB, home address and other. This is then sent to Equifax for confirmation. So people who have had PayPal accounts for years are suddenly hit with this. So now residential and other sensitive info is going to be accessed by another external party, possibly two. It's understandable that people are concerned and uncomfortable with this. And failure to comply means that funds within PayPal are frozen. lucky for PayPal though, funds can still be paid in.and of course, you can't buy or sell using your PayPal account until that info is given.
So in this (whatever you want to call it) the players are PayPal, Austrac and Equifax.
Regardless of wht you make of that, haave a listen to the clip below by Mike Turber.
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PayPal Shuts Down Customer Service Freezing Accounts Leaving Many Without Money571 views•Jun 3, 2020
1.34K subscribersGet Your Money Out Of PayPal Now! Share This Message ASAP. We have been unable to confirm any information with PayPal because their customer service is closed and no one will respond to any of our enquiries. PayPal has shut down their customer service department and has left many of their customers stranded and without recourse or knowing what to do. While researching this we have found that many people are in the same situation where PayPal has taken their funds and tells the customer that they will hold it for up to six months with absolutely no explanation as to why. We reached out to PayPal for clarification about this policy and have not received a reply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhgvSK6eHE
Again PayPal are not replying to people's requests!
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02-11-2020 01:05 PM - edited 02-11-2020 01:09 PM
thanks for highlighting the above post 😉 rule "Including feedback or comments about other users" which you do alot
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on 02-11-2020 01:24 PM
@silver-fox-bullion wrote:HMMM funny you should bring up the MOD thing has been toying with making a post re the MODS on here for the last few days. As there a clear double standard. And I am not the only one seeing it. It seems to appear from posts that are popping up.
Which brings us to the MODS are they EBAY staff or VOLS? And how are/were they put into their position? As there a clear pattern and it time for either more MODS or a change of MODS to deal with the pattern that forming...
NO doubt this post will be deleted which will prove a point further and the other posts will be left alone which will highlight this post further...
What has your post got to do with PayPal restricting accounts?
As for making a post about the moderators, good luck with that. Try it and see what happens.
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on 02-11-2020 01:39 PM
@silver-fox-bullion wrote:thanks for highlighting the above post 😉 rule "Including feedback or comments about other users" which you do alot
Where have I made comments about other users?
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on 02-11-2020 02:10 PM
I not commenting further as your replies say enough. It sad 1 of you basically went me on the MODS topic with out reading the whole post as it was in fact another user that brought them up 1st do not see you going that other user enough said.
To the second post go read your posts in your history there countless examples of it in the forum to many users
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on 02-11-2020 02:14 PM
Isn't this a bit like the pot calling the kettle black ?
"Start me up I'll never stop......"
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on 02-11-2020 02:35 PM
@*tippy*toes* wrote:
I nearly always have a PayPal balance, including now. I am still able to use my account. I don't recall ever having to verify my account. Maybe I did when I created it, but that was years ago.
Perhaps because you have validated your account early on in the piece you haven't had the restrictions yet, Hopefully you won't and you can go on as per normal without the hassle of taking time out to do it again.. But down the track it may eventually come to you. I know that people who have just their first initial and last name on the account ( IE: Mr Joe Example is registered as Mr. J. Example ) have been targeted. And it seems a bit more than suspicious that the people who have their account's listed like this are the ones who are being targeted first. Probably not illegal what PayPal is doing but a bit unethical I'd say. Still, logistically it's a clever move to earn interest on money and trap money on unverifiable accounts.
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on 02-11-2020 02:36 PM
Was not going to comment further on this but noticed the 4th memeber of the 4 jumped in to comment, Yes it a free country etc But there a clear pattern that happens day and out. To countless members. Both new and old. where one of this group will attack when the other party replies to the 1st the other 3 them attack the member. and guess what it the poor member that attacked that gets pulled up for defending themselfs against these attacks. And the protected ones are left to do it again and again. It has to stop I seen posts where new users have been jumped for asking a simple question countless times. to basically be jumped by these 4 users and the poor poster has not got they answer or had a heap of smart ass comments from these 4. I seen new posters telling these 4 to BEEP off or BEEP up due to replies and yet nothing get done
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on 02-11-2020 02:43 PM
Good to see some sense here. Well, you're another one to come in who has finally been able to see what has been taking place for a long time,. Took you long enough but I won't hold that against you. Actually I commend you for having the guts to speak out about this. Thankyou. You have my respect!
This should be a place to discuss things and people allowed to give their thoughts on a matter without being bullied.
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on 02-11-2020 04:31 PM
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on 02-11-2020 11:18 PM
@4channel,
I've not seen evidence to support the conclusion you have drawn about PayPal accounts.
What I have noted follows on directly from your first post, though. You have quoted:
@4channel wrote:[...] When speaking to a PayPal consultant, the reason given is that this is what Austrac is demanding of PayPal. PayPal seems to be targeted some account holders and not others from what is evident at his stage. The people targeted seem to be the folks that have a balance. A balance of a hundred dollars gets frozen. PayPal's asking for sensitive info DOB, home address and other. This is then sent to Equifax for confirmation. [...]AUSTRAC orders audit of PayPal Australia’s compliance with financial crime laws24 Sep 2019AUSTRAC has ordered the appointment of an external auditor to examine ongoing concerns in regard to PayPal Australia’s compliance with the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing Act 2006 (the AML/CTF Act).
These concerns relate to PayPal Australia’s compliance with its International Funds Transfer Instruction reporting obligations, which require regulated entities to report the transfer of funds or property to or from Australia.
So in this (whatever you want to call it) the players are PayPal, Austrac and Equifax.
That is, as you yourself have stated, 4channel, AUSTRAC ordered the appointment of an external auditor for PayPal Australia. You might not have followed up with this, though, because in September of last year, an extension was granted for this appointment. I'll quote from AUSTRAC:
❝AUSTRAC grants extension for PayPal Australia audit2 Mar 2020On 23 September 2019, AUSTRAC ordered the appointment of an external auditor to examine ongoing concerns regarding PayPal Australia’s compliance with the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing Act 2006 (the AML/CTF Act).
These concerns relate to PayPal Australia’s compliance with its International Funds Transfer Instruction reporting obligations.
On 27 February 2020, AUSTRAC granted an extension to the appointment of the external auditor until 31 August 2020 following a request from PayPal.
AUSTRAC has granted the extension taking into consideration the scope of the audit, the size and complexity of PayPal Australia's business operations and the overlap with PayPal's international operations. The extension will allow PayPal Australia and the external auditor to fully examine their compliance with the AML/CTF Act.❞
– https://www.austrac.gov.au/about-us/our-recent-work/extension-paypal-australia-audit
(There was a modification declaration made on 29/9/2020.)
It follows that when PayPal account holders are being asked to provide ID, it is because of the requirement to be in compliance with the AML/CTF Act.
While I agree with you that there may well be a perception of risk specifically regarding identity theft when people are asked to provide ID online, the fact is that when it comes to money and the activities of such a complex and large business such as PayPal, verifiable ID is a requirement. Money laundering is rife; just think of the Crown Casino investigation recently announced.
❝The financial crimes regulator is investigating casino operator Crown for potential breaches of Australia's anti-money laundering and counterterrorism financing laws.
Crown said in a statement to the ASX that AUSTRAC had identified potential non-compliance with the laws including "concerns in relation to ongoing customer due diligence, and adopting, maintaining and complying with an anti-money laundering/counterterrorism financing program".
The matter has been referred to the agency's enforcement team, which has begun a formal investigation into Crown Melbourne.
Crown said the investigation was focused on Crown Melbourne's management of customers identified as "high risk and politically exposed persons", which is likely to include customers brought to the casino by junket operators in China.
The gambling giant said it would "respond to all information requests in support of the investigation and fully cooperate with AUSTRAC in relation to this process".
An AUSTRAC spokesperson confirmed the investigation into Crown Melbourne.
"The enforcement investigation is a result of an AUSTRAC compliance assessment that commenced in September 2019," the spokesperson said.❞
– Crown Casino to be investigated by AUSTRAC over potential money laundering breaches
In terms of a PayPal account holder who has been asked to provide ID, that person has a choice: to continue to be able to use PayPal, they must provide the requested ID, but if they do not wish to provide the requested ID, PayPal neither can nor will make an exception for that person, and the person will cease to be able to use PayPal.
If there are grounds for suspicion that the person may be involved in money-laundering (and the refusal to provide ID may be seen as such grounds), PayPal would be non-compliant with the AML/CTF Act if they simply allowed the individual in question to move money.
If the individual is not involved in anything dodgy, but simply has fears about his/her identity being secure, I'd suggest that that person contact PayPal requesting that they be allowed to remove their funds but that they do not wish to provide any additional ID due to their concerns about ID security. Assuming that this doesn't cut the mustard, that person can then contact the Australian Financial Complaints Authority and make a complaint.
I acknowledge the valid concern about one's personal details potentially being in the cloud or on an accessible drive. There have been data breaches. Unfortunately, refusal to provide ID to a business or organisation that is required to check ID to the standard and in the circumstances outlined in the AML/CTF Act is going to result in the person concerned being limited in how they can control their finances. Any body that requires ID to be provided online rather than in person will pose a problem for that individual... and even bodies that have a physical location will almost certainly be storing individuals' details in such a way that it is possible that those details could be accessed in a data breach.
There's no easy answer.
It must have been a great deal easier in the days when one was identified as "Og, the son of Ooga with the wide nose, yes, that one over there, the one wearing the tunic made from a Smilodon coat".
The worst danger is when one provides personal information to a non-valid body - i.e., a scammer. Providing that same information to an authorised body whose actions are prescribed by Acts that protect society and the consumer does not carry with it that same risk. That is worth considering.

