on 19-05-2013 02:20 AM
So many people complain, or call people "trolls" if their feedback is set to private.
They assume, you have no idea what you're talking about, therefore, shouldn't have to the right to voice an opinion.
Why don't eBay just remember everyone's number from showing on the boards? Just have our usernames and "show listings" viewable.
on 20-05-2013 11:23 AM
Brilliantly put wishuponastar, every last word of it!
😉
*stands and applauds*
on 20-05-2013 11:32 AM
I only have 1 ID for buying, selling and posting as I have nothing to hide
I personally don't see private feedback as hiding. In technical terms, we are all hiding behind a screen. Even those who display their feedback total.
I mean, really, what can you see? What they are selling? Where they are from? What they've purchased?
I "hide" behind a name "arnl7178 {insert number here}" while someone else, lets say nonny_muss "hides" behind that name with {private} beside said name. To me, what difference does it make? I couldn't vouch for the authenticity of noony_muse anymore than she/he could for me.
Regardless of how someone chooses to display their information, they are still people. They've still taken the time to reply to you, to offer advice, to show compassion (at times) etc.
(I don't mean you personally wishuponastar, just all of us in general)
I've seen a lot of people comment that advice may or may not be taken due to the experience a member has. Some think if feedback is set to private, they have no merit to their words. I actually find the opposite. How many new members would even know HOW to set feedback to private? Most have trouble opening a dispute or finding their messages, let alone finding out how to "hide".
Of late I have been reading the boards frequently. What is disturbing are the personal attacks. Sometimes a basic question is asked and it seems that those responding have taken the time to review the person's feedback, their listings etc etc when it is completely irrelevant to the question at hand. Criticisms are then posted about the person who is merely trying to seek some advice. I do not understand why some people find it necessary to belittle others in this manner.
Absolutely second this. There's one poster in particular who seems intent on being nasty to everyone who seeks advice or help. I wonder if they have a "jerk quota" they need to reach each day. Completely unnecessary but I've learned this comes par and parcel with public forums.
For those of you who have had negative experiences using your posting ID's. Did those things happen before or after sellers could no longer give buyers negative feedback? I'm just curious if it was after because buyers feel "secure" to run amok.
Lots of fun watching all the regular boardies (with only a few exceptios) siding with each other, like a pack of dogs, once one starts they all join in with excatly the same "advice and comments" all with private f/backs, of course.
Isn't the idea of a discussion forum to discuss? It's not really hard to assume a lot of people would have the same "advice and comments" when the question asked is either a simple one, or obvious. I don't know why people insist on grouping "regulars" together like there's two sides. Because if there is, I definitely haven't seen it.
And further, if you know who the "regulars" are, wouldn't that make you one too, even if you don't post as often and only lurk?
So now I'm just raving, so I'm going to make coffee 😄
on 20-05-2013 11:34 AM
"The presumption that someone with a high level of feedback is necessarily better placed to provide sound advice is flawed."
That may be the case but there are situations were actually being able to see the items / category etc helps to make a better decision. What works in one area may not in another, a posting ID may have little to do with area that they sell in. If I tell you free post works for me if I use my real selling ID you can immediately see from my FB / sales that you sell in my category or something similar and maybe I should consider trying it too. But if you have private or a posting ID it's just noise, even if they say they sell in a particular category it's only hearsay. But if I know the real ID I can look at their sales,what they are selling, and if they really always use Free post or just for some items or a particular line and then make an educated decision that maybe Free post will also work for as me. All too often there are pronouncements that this or that doesn't work, well in their area that may be true but one size doesn't fit all.
on 20-05-2013 11:44 AM
I only have 1 ID for buying, selling and posting as I have nothing to hide
I personally don't see private feedback as hiding. In technical terms, we are all hiding behind a screen. Even those who display their feedback total.
arnl I was not implying that those that use private feedback were trying to "hide" per se. What I meant was that I don't care if anyone reads my feedback, listings etc. I do understand why some would not want to disclose that information (albeit limited in that it does not provide personal information about them). Their reasons for not disclosing their buying/selling history may be valid, but I consider them irrelevant to my particular circumstances. It is a matter of perception.
I agree we are all hiding behind a screen and what we say may be ambiguous, and may be open to interpretation.
on 20-05-2013 11:50 AM
Ah ok, sorry I read that wrong wishuponastar. I understand what you meant now. It's so hard to interpret things sometimes.
on 20-05-2013 12:37 PM
For those of you who post with your selling ID's, have you had anything negative come from that? Any "retaliation" etc?
None that I am aware of.
on 20-05-2013 01:29 PM
DG the comments " Just shut up and do it this way like we all do" or " you can't do that you are breaking the rules", were not meant to relate to the
"we are not teachers we are just giving advice" comment and I apologize if you thought I was taking your comment out of context.
I could not remember whose comment it was? The thread that my "loose quote' came from would be 6 or 12 months old? But If it was yours and you want context then I am glad you added it.
They were meant to be an example of why question askers sometimes react to private feedback posts especially where
Just shut up and do it this way like we all do" or " you can't do that you are breaking the rules"
or words to that effect are used
I understand that some posters (and I don't mean you ) give advice and do not care whether the question asker takes it up or not or how the question asker perceives it and can just move on. Personally, I sometimes feel that question askers miss out especially active learners. I consider myself a redfl;ective learner so it does not worry my learning style so much
Thanks for taking the time to clarify in detail, and sorry for misunderstanding.
I haven't searched back for the thread in question, but if I remember correctly my specific comment back then was we are all the students rather than any of us teachers. And, as a classroom absent of teachers, all we have are a few "text books" we can reference, but ultimately we are all left to draw on our own experiences and (hopefully), discuss them openly in the environment provided.
on 20-05-2013 03:43 PM
For those of you who post with your selling ID's, have you had anything negative come from that? Any "retaliation" etc?
Yes, zero feedback buyers making no contact after BIN purchases, listings reported for suggesting the buyer might like to make an offer if they think the BIN price is too high (when using the Best Offer format on my listings).
Having listings reported for telling buyers to make an offer was so stupid because ebay should have been able to see all my listings were BIN/Best Offer.
It doesn't happen on my selling only ID.
on 21-05-2013 07:02 AM
Thanks for taking the time to clarify in detail, and sorry for misunderstanding.
I haven't searched back for the thread in question, but if I remember correctly my specific comment back then was we are all the students rather than any of us teachers. And, as a classroom absent of teachers, all we have are a few "text books" we can reference, but ultimately we are all left to draw on our own experiences and (hopefully), discuss them openly in the environment provided.
I should have called myself a facilitator... not a tafe teacher lol... I learn as much from the other participants in the courses I manage and not just about the core subject. A facilitiators job is to help others find their opwn learning path that best suits their learning style. Adult education is not all about passing a test. The gauge for a successful adult learning course is postive outcomes inline with the participants core goal.
Adult learning is often best reinforced in a forum of peers bouncing ideas off each other.
If somebody has a 'good' idea then for that part of the "forum' just for a little time they facilitate the other participants education (become the teacher)... like explaining their perception of Cassini, best match, or supplying spreadsheet figures to gauge the impact of ebay fee changes
.. As you say it is up to the participants whether they embrace the ideas or research themselves for another answer
on 21-05-2013 07:14 AM
I have the idea that one anonymous definition is
Having no outstanding, individual, or unusual features; unremarkable or impersonal.
and I would think that most private feedback posters ebay profiles (feedback listings and buying traits) would be well defined within those parameters
However an ID that has current buying and selling feedback could possibly be an oustanding example, the id may also have some listings with unique unusual traits but whose feedback and listings will definitely be individual......
I think that leaves those active ebay trading IDs defined as personable rather than anonymous