on 01-04-2017 04:36 AM
People,
I got scammed - I purchased a hallway table with free delivery for $65. Yesterday I received a parcel FROM KMART directly, it was this table. I go and check the Kmart website - the item is for sale online for $30.
This is it: http://www.kmart.com.au/product/black-hallway-table/124214
The seller didn't even bother to have the goods delivered to himself and then to me - shameless scammer.
Since the overall damage is just $25 (Kmart delivery fee is $10), I reported the seller to eBay and I left negative feedback.
While for electronics it is easier to check pricing online, for furniture it is much more complex.
Note that a lot of people are selling the exact same item for hugely inflated prices ($65 was the cheapest on eBay when I bought it). I am sure they are playing the same game with a lot of other stuff.
01-04-2017 09:22 PM - edited 01-04-2017 09:23 PM
For general consideration... (by which I mean, I'm not suggesting any of what follows is aplicable to this specific occurence, rather more suggesting absolutes are difficult to apply in every circumstance).
What if the seller usually holds stock of an item, but unexpectedly runs out and decides to purchase from elsewhere, having the item shipped directly to the buyer, in favour of having to let them down and cancel the transaction (earning themselves an out of stock defect in the process)? Is it still cheeky? What if they bought it from another eBay seller instead, who wouldn't include any identifying information thus cluing the buyer in on what had occured? What if the seller paid more (all told) than the buyer did, is it still a "scam"? Or could it be an acceptable solution in those circumstances? (If the answer to these questions is yes, it's acceptable then, then the sole issue is seeing the difference in price, and not the actual practice).
I also wonder... What value is there on curation? An interior decorator would probably tell you there's lots...since that's their job description. What if someone spends upwards of 50 hours a week, scouring online sources for goods and picks the ones that match a certain aesthetic, or genre, or anything else, and creates an eBay store offering these curated goods, so that people who find that this store matches their style and taste can go directly there to choose from a range of goods and eliminate hours of scouring themselves. Can that then be justifiably called a service worth paying for?
on 01-04-2017 09:43 PM
I agree that absolutes are difficult to apply in every circumstance.
However, I (and I suspect a lot of other buyers) would be a bit put out to find something bought on ebay arrived direct from K mart.
I am not suggesting it is a scam, but it isn't what I would call a great business practice at all.It's just likely to generate ill will.
As a seller, I personally would be inclined to buy at the store, but post to the people myself so they didn't know where it was coming from. But.. I assume K mart can do it cheaper.
As people have said though, there are paypal fees, ebay fees and I am sure that in some instances, there are dearer postage fees. I'm not sure it is worth it for the profit involved and the very good chance of putting buyers offside.
on 02-04-2017 12:50 AM
@fcosenti wrote:I have contacted the ACCC. The seller was malicious and dishonest. He knew that I could have walked into a Kmart and purchased the item for half price. By withholding that information, he has intentionally defrauded me.
Anyway, I don't care for my little loss, it's a matter of decency.
Well, why didn't you? It pays to shop around, both online and on legs. Google is your friend.
on 02-04-2017 05:58 AM
on 02-04-2017 07:31 AM
@letscleanupmycupboards wrote:
Oooh I'm upset too.
I just got scammed. FRAUD! FRAUD!
Had to put petrol in the car and it was $1.46 a litre. I've been scammed because it was only $1.45 a litre at the servo 200km away and I'm sure they bought that very same petrol for $1.30 a litre. Sure I'm 2000km from Brisbane and they had to truck it here but it's totally a scam.
I'm on hold to the ACCC now. They'll totally help.
At least this has been a good read. I'm out of popcorn though.
me too LOL...i paid $1.44 a litre and if i drove another 1000km i would of only paid $1.41..FRAUD FRAUD. im telling ACCC....LOLOLOL....
on 02-04-2017 08:07 AM
Where the heck do you both live lol I only paid $1.16ltr so if I visited both of you I would have been scammed if I paid $1.46ltr
on 02-04-2017 08:53 AM
I would be happy if I were paying $1.50 per litre in ten days time. I will paying around $1.98!
on 02-04-2017 11:02 AM
02-04-2017 11:29 AM - edited 02-04-2017 11:31 AM
@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:
@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:
You say they haven't value added . . . . . but you are hurting because you genuinely feel you got scammed. However, had you spent just thirty seconds before hitting the buy-now button looking at the seller's feedback you would have seen a neg less than one month ago saying, wait for it, that the seller sold an item for $35 that was available for $9 from, wait for it, Kmart
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just wanted to add to this earlier post of mine.
After I saw the previous neg for the seller I stopped looking at the seller feedback as that was enough info for me to post to make my point i.e. Buyers should carefully study the feedback of sellers before buying.
After subsequent posts I went back to the seller feedback to see that I had not misread the feedback, and decided to look at the 6 neutral feedback. In that feedback are some for seller cancelling due to items not being available and some for the seller selling Kmart items at inflated prices.
eBay gives buyers the tools needed to avoid situations that the buyer found themselves in i.e that being seller feedback being freely available for all to see before buying.
Had the OP even taken a cursory glance at the non-positive feedbacks that the seller has they would have easily seen that the seller was onselling Kmart items and then made the decision about whether to buy or not.
I agree. I went and had a look at the seller's feedback too and i noticed a couple of things.
One was that a few other buyers commented on being onsold K mart products.
It proves my earlier point that although it isn't fraud to openly do this, it isn't a great practice to win over customers either & you're likely to cop a few slams in feedback.
And it definitely would be a heads up to check the K mart site before buying from this guy. It's always worth having a quick look at the feedback of any seller before you commit.
The second thing i noticed was that the seller seems to have cancelled quite a few sales. Saying the product was 'no longer available' or words to that effect. Call me cynical if you like but I would hazard a guess that they possibly were available & it wasn't a problem on the k mart site. I'm betting some of the buyers may have been from more remote locations or places that had a much heftier postage cost so the seller decided to cancel rather than sell at a loss or no profit.
Of course I could be wrong, but if by chance he was doing that, then it is a bit shifty. Not dishonest as such, but not great either.
on 02-04-2017 11:42 AM
@springy
It's always worth having a quick look at the feedback of any seller before you commit.
especially when the seller has anything less than 100% feedback rating.